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By Mark Tilley last year, at the start of January Add your comment below
It appears obvious to English fans that Kevin Pietersen and Peter Moores just aren’t a winning formula ala Vaughan/Fletcher. Events have been spiced up by KP’s apparent anger over the failure to recall Vaughan for the tour to the West Indies and many feel that the coach and the captain are unable to work together.
If this is so, and Pietersen has demanded face to face talks with the ECB as reported, then which man goes? English cricket desperately needs KP as captain at the moment. That ugly Stanford business and results in India aside, Pietersen has handled himself and his position excellently since his appointment. And there’s his incredible batting form, too.
Moores’ record is less flattering. He has overseen four series defeats out of the seven that England have played under his leadership, lost the once proud unbeaten home record and generally been in charge whilst the side has gone backwards.
Indeed Michael Vaughan found it tougher to work with Moores than the Fletcher days. See the Darren Pattinson debacle for evidence.
If KP is to issue an ultimatum then it is hard to see the ECB siding with the coach over the captain. However, what would that say about Pietersen’s strength and influence as a mere team captain? Having the captain decide who is and who isn’t good enough to be coach would not sit well with cricketing purists and ECB bigwigs.
Rest assured, the fireworks are still to go off on this one.
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Tags: conflict, england, kevin-pietersen, Peter-Moores |
Agree that Pietersen is the obviously the winner in the argument. Moores can hardly have much, if any influence, at all.
Also it is interesting that Pietersen is so hell bent of getting Vaughan back in the side. Perhaps he’s doing a favour for an old mate?
Good stuff.
Why do the captain and coach seem to have so much of a say in selection? A panel to choose the team, the coach to coach it, the captain to lead it onto the field- that’s how it should work. It would prevent either the captain or coach playing their favourites and would avoid these types of petty power plays.
One of the cricinfo articles raised the idea that Pietersen is looking for someone to give him tactical advice on the field, and that’s why he wants Vaughan back in the side.
That seems a bit ridiculous…
Marcus, I strongly believe the captain should be involved with selection, simply so he has some freedom in executing plans on the field with appropriate tools.
I don’t think the coach should necessarily be involved though.
I can tell you one thing – had this thing happened in india, the coach would have been booted (offcourse he would be aforeign coach, and all the nationalist lobby would get behind the indian capatin). but this is good, the petersen-moores battle – it will set into the game certain relationship questions about a cricket team.
What annoys me is that it took KP throwing a strop to even bring Moores’ position into question with both the ECB and the media. In my opinion, he should go because he seems to just not be up to the task. His lack of a working relationship with KP should just be another nail in his coffin, not the one that everyone is going to blame it on if he is sacked, as he deserves to be. England have clearly stagnated under him and KP and Freddie seem to be holding the whole team together. It’s time for him to go, it’s just too bad that if he does go, it’s going to look like it was KP who forced him out with a ‘me or him’ ultimatum, one KP was never going to lose, rather than the ECB realizing that he’d been found out and that he and his magical laptop clearly wasn’t doing anything good for the side anymore.
Nice piece.
I think Moores’s position is now untenable, so he’s going to have to go – a decent man overpromoted beyond his capabilities. I’m sure the ECB will be able to find him some sort of sinecure within the organisation – they seem pretty good at that sort of thing.
If KP wants Vaughan to advise him, then get Vaughan back as coach for nine months on the understanding that he’s not going to be paid much because he’s already getting a decent wedge through his central contract.
Unless Fletcher is prepared to come back.
to be honest i can’t believe KP believes he can dictate a team this way. The whole “he goes or i go” is so childish. For the teams benefit they should learn to get along, they’re both grown men for goodness sake. Moores seems to be willing to put differences aside and purely wants to do what is best for the team, even if that means stepping down. i think KP’s way of showing a problem with the team is dispicable!
The manner in which this “relationship meltdown”it is being played out is very reminiscent of soccer- between managers and owners.
I am a big KP fan, but feel that his arrogant and stubborn streak is dictating in this matter.
Moores is a modern coach has all the certificates and uses modern techniques such as biomechanics and studies by laptop. Perhaps, the job came too soon for him- but let him develop and see out his contract at least.
Fletcher- had his time and the team regressed under the latter stages of his tenure- KP and Freddie are big personalities and have been indulged considerably by media and public alike.
I see no reason to return to Fletcher. I am very pleased to find that there was no room for Vaughan- because it would also help reinforce the cliques which exist in team england.
The entire set up stinks of cliques- Moores is an outsider to these cliques and perhaps wants to be his own man.
I think we back Moores and if it upsets KP then so be it, if KP poses an ultimatum then so be it, off to Hampshire and a lucrative contract in the IPL.
I admire KP’s batting abilities enormously- his captaincy is still in its infancy and we can not judge whether he will be a Nas, Brearley or a Freddie. He needs to get on with the job of learning to captain and take heed from the coach.
barnes,
In case you didn’t know, India’s most successful captain ever was thrown out at a foreign coach’s behest. Still didn’t get it? Think Chappel & Ganguly.
Surely the first job for whoever replaces Peter Moores as coach is to pick his own preferred choice for captain. If so, why not get it right at last and give the captaincy back to Andrew Strauss?
If the England Set up had the courage in our disasterous defence of the Ashes in Australia- then Strauss would have made captain ahead of KP. But, they backed Freddie then because they feared a fall out.
If KP walks then I’d hand the captaincy to Strauss unreservedly- but Strauss’s star has been falling ever since bowlers started bowling full and straight at him. And, he is not in the one day set up either.
We will see what compromise is likely to be reached-
I feel the Board need to back the coach and tell KP to get on with it.
I hear some funny names being banded around of which I feel Mick Vaughan’s golfing partner and good buddy Ashley Giles is one candidate being courted should Moores be sacked. If Moores does go then it should be Graham Ford, I’d like it to be Greg Chappell as this will teach our prima donnas a lesson or two and prove to be a poetic justice for Moores.
Barnes,
Your comment is quite stupid to say the least.Save the rants against India for some other time & try commenting on ‘this’ post by Tilly.
From a neutral perspective the only thing positive about England I’ve seen is Pietersen & Flintoff to a lesser extent.I saw your coach give a few interviews to hydro-phobe Atherton & I’d describe him as I’d describe Atherton’s teeth-Yellow.
Excuses,more excuses were what came out of his mouth.
Sadly,this happens everywhere & it’s generally the same outcome.Stall the revolt ,wait for a time when the revolting player is out of form & do as you wish.By you I’m referring to the selectors & the coach,even board secretaries.
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