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    The Woolmer case on Panorama tonight

    By Will last year, at the end of April Leave a comment on this post

    Panorama, and its’ authoritatively grand theme tune, is covering Woolmer-gate tonight, on BBC1 at 20.30. For those of you who don’t live in the UK, tough bobbins. In fact, if you’re not living in God’s Own Country, you probably haven’t seen this either. You should.

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    19 Responses to “The Woolmer case on Panorama tonight”

  • Steve wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 12.13 am

    That’s the problem with English cricket - you still think you’re living in God’s Own. One day, if you ever come out of your delusion, you may be worth playing! (my grandmother worked it out 80 years ago-smart lady)

    Meanwhile, trundle back to county cricket, Will, and dream on………Afterall, on your day, you lot can beat anyone, can’t you?

    Just stirring, of course :-)

  • Will wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 12.16 am

    Ha, excellent stirring Steve! Glad someone fell for the bait. Your grandmother does sound wise. Was she on the first or second ship out of Southampton?!

  • Kathy wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 1.09 am

    Come on you two, everyone knows God’s own country is New Zealand.

  • Fiona wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 1.15 am

    Will, you’re supposed to be asleep!

    I thought Michael lived in God’s Own. Personally I live in a house. More comfortable.

  • Fiona wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 2.05 am

    Of course i “fell” for the bait, wasn’t that the point? Glad to oblige.

    More seriously, I’m not sure i want to know what the the ramifications of Bob Woolmer’s murder are going to be , apart from his great loss. From the latest, it doesn’t sound like it was a crime of passion by an fan.

  • Wraye wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 6.32 am

    Right, I fall for the bait too, Will and really want to have a rant at somebody, though don’t quite know who, but you and me are here so…

    God’s Own Country? If you mean the UK, born there, educated there, loved it and left it 25 years ago. Taxes, pensions, NHS, ASBOs and kids can’t play safely on the streets anymore? Germany may be a cricket desert (for now) but I live with 2 daughters in a safe and clean country. Hurrah.

    I hope to heavens that they catch whodunnit to Bob Woolmer. I am usually a kind, peaceful child but I sincerely hope the perpetrators rot and suffer in hell for eternity.

    Bob supported the minnows, and as minnows go, I am less than a tiddler, less than frog-spawn but still we want to play. No money, no support but we love our cricket here just as much as the next man. We want to play, and in a World Cup should be allowed to play. They managed it in football. What is so desperately wrong with the ICC that we cannot manage it with cricket too? What a shame, what a damn rotten shame.

  • Kathy wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 6.59 am

    Wraye, I’m interested to know — why is Germany safer and cleaner than the UK? Is it something to do with the “national character”, or is it politics or immigration or something else…

  • Wraye wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 11.08 am

    Kathy, I don’t know and can’t explain it properly, it just is, over here. We separate our rubbish and treat kids well, but we have jobsworthies getting chewing gum off the streets and checking your bus pass.

    There is a lot wrong in this country too, what with taxes and unemployment but it is clean amd safe. I can walk through the city center at night with no fear, there are plenty of buses too. It is a nice place to live. It is maybe not down to politics, but Bonn used to be the capital city so we are all used to being well behaved. It’s small, beautiful (lovely buildings and loads of history here).

    Because of the embassies, we have loads of ex-pats and the city organises evenings for us to get-together twice a year with free booze!

    Given a choice, I would actually prefer to move to NZ, but am very happy here and do not want to come back to the UK.

  • glamorous_organ wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 3.38 pm

    Yes Germany is clean and safe, right now, that’s why it’s a by-word for comic creativity no doubt.

  • Wraye wrote:
    May 1st, 2007 at 7.59 pm

    comic-creativity? er, no.

  • Kathy wrote:
    May 2nd, 2007 at 2.42 am

    Wraye, I think we need a little smiley-face thing that indicates irony (and it would doubtless get used more than anything else) — I’m sure Mr Glamorous_Organ was being ironical…

    And I guess if you don’t want to go back to the UK, the only solution is to bring a little bit of the UK to Germany, hence the cricket.

  • Wraye wrote:
    May 2nd, 2007 at 10.34 am

    yes! more smilies :) Don’t get me wrong though ;) there is so much about the UK that I still love and miss, but this country needs cricket and humour - so I’m on a mission ;)

  • Will wrote:
    May 2nd, 2007 at 10.26 pm

    Germany is an interesting place. Two of our oldest friends live in Altenhundem in Lennestadt, and although they are easily the most Anglicised Germans I will ever meet, they still wouldn’t live here. They’re both English teachers (who speak better English than wot most ov us could ever like dream of innit) so are uniquely placed to judge the comparisons.

    Among those they have told us, the biggest single difference is with healthcare and the class system. Klaus had a very serious stroke (all strokes are serious, I suppose), and a life-threatening problem with his liver. He was treated, much in the same way the NHS would do, but then transferred to a “healing centre,” a relaxing rehab place - I think similar to what Britons might go to for a weekend spa treatment - where he stayed for ages, it seemed. Weeks, certainly. Things like that just do not exist in the UK.

    And the class system (this could be hugely outdated) always interested me. They told me that plumbers and builders hold a higher position in society than those of doctors and lawyers. German craftsmanship is obviously world renowned, so it’s an interesting concept.

    Klaus is also the funniest person I have ever known in my life, but he concedes that the stereotype of unsmiling, fierce, humourless Germans is sadly rather accurate.

  • Kathy wrote:
    May 2nd, 2007 at 10.40 pm

    Interesting, Will. I was just talking to a Finnish friend here in NZ who says that Finland is very classless and equal (and highly taxed!) and no-one is too poor or too rich. But she also made the comment that it is too safe there, and thus quite boring.

    So maybe the UK has that exciting edge….

    I’ve never been in Britain for longer than about four weeks and the only big negative that struck me was the crowds, that made me feel claustrophobic. That may just be because I’m a Kiwi who was brought up way in the backblocks…

    And the newspapers in Britain are very good, though there is a too-pervasive air of cynicism in that otherwise good journalism which I find a little depressing.

  • Will wrote:
    May 2nd, 2007 at 11.28 pm

    Yeah, there are a lot of people here. Too many, but not a lot we can do about that. I don’t have any statistics about the trend, but what surprises me is how rural our country is (considering the density of our population), suggesting we’re all crammed into cities. Which we probably are. And we have some great cities; London, York, Cardiff…Slough. But I think our coastline is our most underrated asset, and the diversity of the landscape. Flatlands, calm seas; towering mountains and rough, dangerous, exciting coastline, all within a small group of islands.

    Anyway it’s all subjective. I spent six weeks in Australia - loved every single minute but couldn’t live there forever, for a whole host of reasons. One of the weirdest was the sense of how new the country is. Ever since I returned from Australia, whenever I walk around London it just amazes me to think how old it is, how much evidence of previous generations that you can see. And I’d miss that. But for some, like my friend Jen who’s emigrating with her fiance, they have no great love of Britain. In fact I think she hates it! And I have a mate in Australia at the moment who’s been there a couple of months…having a great old time, but he can’t wait to get back to England. “Not a patch on Britain” he said.

    Home is home, I guess. Let’s just hope all countries can maintain their individualism, history and character…otherwise we’ll all blend into one.

  • Fiona wrote:
    May 3rd, 2007 at 12.10 am

    I thought this was a cricket blog? But since you’re all discussing the pros and cons of other countries, I’ll put in my 2 cents’ worth.

    Kathy, I’m surprised that, for an Anglophile, you’ve only ever been to Britain for three weeks. But then, I was once like you, looked to England, or rather Britain, as a place I thought I’d rather be, looked down on Australian culture, (or lack of it) and dreamt of more refined way of life. I’m a history addict and a Celt, so Britain was like a spiritual home.

    I lived in England for 6 years in the 80’s, loved it, then went back with a work permit a few years ago, stayed a year, coudn”t bear it, and left without a backwards glance. The work permit, still valid, sits in a bottom drawer.

    What had changed. Me, probably, since your needs and values change, but England as well, Things like the healthe service the bureaucracy ( yes, I know everyone has it but they have pros with theirs, as well), the transport system (once I was due to catch a train from Kings Cross to Glasgow, got on the train, half an hour later was advised that the train was cancelled for the day - could I come back tomorrow?)

    And the people seemed so backward-looking and locked in by their lives, compared to Antipodeans and Americans. And Germans. ( I have a lot of Deutsche relatives and friends and have been there often). And the grubbiness of the big cities. I don’t mean there was lot’s of litter lying around, just a sense of tired old has-been. Yes, London, which I once loved. I had the same with Greece, another favourite often-visited place, standing on the Acropolis last time and thinking “what is this old pile of rocks? What ever was once there has long gone.

    That newness that Will finds hard to live with in Australia is the vibrancy that gives us a future-oriented perspective on life ( despite the bests aeforts of John Howard). Even our cricket team has it demonstrates that. I’m not anti-history these days - I still value it highly - but I don’t need to live in it anymore.

    That’s my rant, bit long, I see, from the Preview, but, now that the Cup is over, I probably won’t post much for while.
    Cheers :-)

  • Fiona wrote:
    May 3rd, 2007 at 12.19 am

    Sorry, Kathy, four weeks!

    By the way, did you go to NZ, Will? One of the most exciting coastlines, and landscapes, in the world - got the wildness that Brtian must have once had. ( My recent year in Britain was in the Hebrides, so I do know the British coasts - lovely, but too touristed or built-up.)

  • Will wrote:
    May 3rd, 2007 at 12.31 am

    Couldn’t afford the extra cost and time (I went over to see my bro in Aus), but I know all about NZ. My Grandparents hailed from there and I’m related to Sir Jack Newman. I’ll get back in my Brit Box now…

  • Kathy wrote:
    May 3rd, 2007 at 5.49 am

    The reason for only four weeks, Fiona, is that I am not strictly speaking an Anglophile. I’m a very loyal Kiwi and get quite homesick if I stray from home for very long — I’m a poor traveller, unlike many Aussies and Kiwis. But I do love the England cricket team — I love it when they do well and have been known to take it hard when they don’t ;-) — and I don’t believe that all the world’s ills are the fault of British colonialism, so I guess I’m an Anglophile to that extent.

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