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Nanny state seeps into cricket grounds

By Will 3 years ago, at the start of January Add your comment below

And I thought Tony’s Britain was bad. John’s Australia is worse than Tony’s United State of Europe and George’s USA combined and the effects of the 21st century phenomenon, the nanny state, is seeping into cricket grounds at a rate of knots.

Last year the ICC began to ban people bringing in alcohol into grounds. I saw it first hand at The Oval last summer.

A fan is forced to consume the contents of his highly dangerous aluminium can of coke

The ICC’s problem, so we are told, is the highly dangerous aluminium and glass bottle containers the evil public bring in. In theory, this could cause a disturbance (or, presumably, death). The real reason, I fear, has more to do with driving the public into the bars to spend more money.

Also, beach balls – those venomous, violently coloured plastic balls of carbon dioxide otherwise known as Balls of Doom – are often confiscated by the fun police in Australia, and England. And now the Mexican Wave has been banned. Quite how you enforce this latest one is beyond me, short of super gluing everyone to their seats. But the best example of this disgusting infringement of our freedom comes from Rod, out in Australia at the moment, who tells us:

A friend was told to lift off his sunglasses from one barman yesterday so he could examine his eyes: if they looked drunk he was told to return to his seat.

What’s next? Will bats come under the spotlight? Balls? What about that most venerable of snacks, the pork pie? You’re not even allowed to sneeze at Brisbane: The Telegraph’s Martin Johnson reported in the first Test that one spectator was asked to vacate his seat until his sneezing fit had finished. It is an unbelievable farce that ground authorities have the power to treat the paying public in this manner and, before long, it will backfire.

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28 Responses to “Nanny state seeps into cricket grounds”

  • Tom wrote:
    January 4th, 2007 at 11.49 pm

    On the second day at the MCG, there was quite literally 4 security members to each bay around the ground. When you consider the MCG has some 200 bays in all tiers combined, it was control in the most extreme.

    I went with my uncle and dad on that day, and there was a period before lunch when the sun came out, and was rather hot (strange when you consider how cold the day before was). Anyway, my uncle put on a the ‘Greg Chappell’ broadbrim hat for protection. After about 15 minutes we were approached by security guards requesting my uncle take of the hat as it poses ‘visual impairment to spectators behind’. Directly behind us were a group of English supporters, and they dismissed these claims outright; “What are you talking about mate, it’s just a hat, doesn’t bother us at all”.

    Despite this, the guards threatened confiscation of the hat unless it was removed, and subsequently my uncle did such a thing.

    Control has been extremely oppressive this summer, in comparison to years gone by when security guards at the MCG used to kick the beachballs back INTO the crowd if the ball found its way onto the field.

  • ernold same wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 1.28 am

    Will,

    This is a good website – the blog thing is a good way of chatting to other cricket fans – and some of your posts are original and funny – but I really do think you should keep the political (and rather 6formish) rants to a minimum – whether or not I agree with you is irrelevant – or whether you actually know what you mean when you refer to a ‘nanny state’, or whether you remember thatchers britain or not, and not just tony’s britain – the thing is….religion and politics..best to stay of clear of them I’d say.

  • cracker the cricket dog wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 3.00 am

    Will,

    I say rave on old boy! Tony, John, George and Helengrad in New Zealand. New Zealand has been aflicted by the same idiocy albeit not quite to the same extent as the Aussies (balls still permitted with trumpets, bag pipes sirens and the like). The beer is in a plastic bottle and costs a small fortune and the food is rubbish. I’ve got no truck with drunken idiots at one day matches (or tests for that matter), but tests bring in the real ethusiasts and NZ Cricket should do everyone a favour and cut us some slack. Tests grounds are completely empty here. Why would you pay $15 a day when you can pick up a six pack and watch it in the confort of your own home on TV without self appointed gods in white coats hassling you?I was going to fly over with the girlfriend to Aussie to take in a few 1 dayers, but with the SS on guard duty at most venues and expensive beer decided to give it a miss.

  • Bilbo wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 4.57 am

    Will,

    For once I agree with you. This is exactly the reason I stopped going to WACA years ago – idiots and the consequent extreme security measures.

    But as Ernold said above, “give it a miss”. You gave me a right seeing to after I slagged off “Olde England”. You even pulled some of my stuff off this blog site.

    But fer now – Will mate, if you don’t like it go back home. Australia doesn’t want or need people like you.

    Bilbo

  • pamela wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 5.35 am

    pfft, rave on all you want, just as long as you don’t get arrested for anything!
    I’m going to the Brisbane ODI in a couple of weeks, and now I’m not sure what I’m allowed to bring in. No hats, no drinks, no food, will I be allowed to wear my Harmison shirt and a layer of sunscreen?

  • rod wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 6.06 am

    Ernold,

    The point of blogs – especially if it’s bloggers who work in the media – is to give personal thoughts other than the objectional ones we use in our working day. New to it myself, I actually came across blogging through Will and this is exactly the type of post that typifies a blog (to go with all the original and funny blogs). Nanny-state scenarios at sports events like the one my friend came across, although highly amusing, are increasingly on the up and need to be ranted at.

  • Bilbo wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 6.25 am

    Will,

    In a similar vein,,,,,,your comments,,,,”It is an unbelievable farce that ground authorities have the power to treat the paying public in this manner and, before long, it will backfire,,,,,,,,,”

    You should have a word with your English Team about how they treat the paying public.

    One match went 3 days and another went only 4!!

    They cost Cricket Australia about 4.5 million Australian Pesos in refunded tickets. Not to mention the franchisees that lost out in beer, food and memorabilia sales.

    If you don’t like it here Will, go home. You’ll be complaining about the weather next,,,,,,,,,

    Bilbo

  • Reverse Swing wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 8.28 am

    Ernold – Get a life mate.

    Will – good points well made. However, don’t forget that there is one group of people who are STILL allowed to bring alcohol into Test Matches, namely MCC members at Lords, who are allowed to take in glass bottles of wine.

    Strange that the authorities allow this exception, bearing in mind that MCC members are the only group of cricket spectators who have actually assaulted an umpire. (Dicky Bird wasn’t it?)

  • glamorous-organ wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 10.20 am

    Ernold, you’re off your trolley boy.
    Will keep doing it, this sort of shirt from the authoritahs needs to be publicised relentlessly. A spectator strike might be a good idea next season, to punish them for their rip-off prices, crap beer, and oppressive policing.

    I don’t call it the nanny state, because of the rhetorical association with the Daily Mail and the rest of the right wing scum-bags who pollute the planet. I call it authoritarian exploitation, but then I’m a post-graduate ranter.

  • ernold same wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 3.26 pm

    You’re right glamarous organ, and thats all I was alluding to really…’nanny state’ was used out of context here, the term…without going into too much detail for those who dont know…. is a term used by ‘the right wing scum bags, and the daily mail’(glamarous organs words not mine) – to lament ‘welfare state’ provision….and then there was ‘tony’s britain’…but anyway…i actually agree with you all anyway – i think the whole ground authority thing is a joke…fans and spectators get treated terribly, and the ‘fun police’have really been out to get us in the last few years…(my friend had his luke sky walker light sabre confiscated at edgbaston last year…and what was worse…it was one of those butter wouldnt melt N Power girls who dobbed us in!)

    ….apart from being a cricket saddo…im also a post grad politics saddo – so i couldnt help make the connection – so naturally i’m actually fascinated when sport and politics collide – but they havent here – this has nothing to do with tonys britain, whatever that is…and its a shame when ‘nanny state’ is used so often to describe everything from ground stewards to dieticians in the england dressing room…

    Bring back Ryan Sidebottom.

  • glamorous-organ wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 4.47 pm

    N-power girls dobbed yer mate in?

    What you expect from the corporate prostitutes??

    Wasn’t Ernold the first name of Oswald Mosely???

    No, it’s OK that phequer was Ernald.

  • marcus wrote:
    January 5th, 2007 at 10.50 pm

    Glamourous-organ, the only people who pollute this planet are those who sink to personally attack anyone who disagrees with them. And that applies to both sides of politics.

    I have to say that I’m with Ernold here. Criticise Howard and Blair if you want to, but only for those things that relate to them! Are we really saying that it’s Howard’s fault that Bill Cooper couldn’t play his trumpet? Or Blair’s fault that people have to pay slightly more to get drunk? Of course, just that small mention there isn’t too bad, I suppose, but there are times when it can get really out of hand. The worst offender would definately have to be Christian Ryan, who used to insert anti-Howard rants into his articles that had nothing to do with him. No wonder he doesn’t work for CricInfo any more.

  • glamorous-organ wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 6.11 am

    Marcus, where did I mention Blair or Howard?
    Or are the authorities synonymous with those individuals in your polluted little world?
    I was referring to the cricket authorities, the chiselling little twerps.

    But anyone who wants to rant against Blair, Howard, Bush, Ahmedinejad or prissy shits like yourself gets carte blanche from me.

    Chuck in the Christians, Buddhists, and the rest too.

  • marcus wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 8.16 am

    glamorous-organ

    You didn’t mention Howard or Blair, but the article itself did. I was just wondering why, when the subject of the article’s about cricket grounds and overbearing staff. The reason why I mentioned you was your use of the word “scum-bag.” Obviously, you’re not a great fan of the Daily Mail, which is presumably what prompted you to use the word “scum-bag.” Well why not? What more balanced, rational view of the world- polluted or otherwise- could one possibly have? Other than bringing Christianity, Buddhism, or any other religion into it, of course.

  • glamorous-organ wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 10.44 am

    Apologies folks, it was early, I’d got up to let the cat in. Missed out Islam, Hinduism and current fave the scientologists.

    Recognising the whores of the Daily Mail for what they are is a fundamental for a balanced view of the world. In my, guess what, yeah, opinion. Which anyone is free to express. Offended? Tough titty.

  • glamorous-organ wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 10.46 am

    Erno, completely agree on Ryan Sidebottom, good bowler with a pair of well cultivated cojones.

  • Miles Down-Legside wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 4.22 pm

    Mmmm, Will I don’t think I’d have mentioned the nanny state bit if I were you.

    We might rant about the inequitable level of taxation we face, the suspension of legal protections that date from the middle ages, and a incomprehensibly self defeating and myopic ‘war on terror’, but overpriced beer and over enthusiastic stewards does not consititue a nanny state (whatever that is).

    When North Korea are admitted to the ICC then we’ll know all about a nanny state.

    PS. Couldn’t agree more with comments above regarding the Daily Mail. It is vile unthinking trash.

  • Miles Down-Legside wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 4.25 pm

    Apologies for the poor use of English above. Too much wine with lunch !

  • glamorous-organ wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 4.38 pm

    Correct Milo, it doesn’t, but though Will may have got the nomenclature wrong that’s a function of the decayed so-called journalism that the Forger’s Gazette, among others specialises in.

    It’s one of the misused, mildly irritating cliches of the age. However the point he was making was valid, i.e. oppressive authoritarian attitudes to the paying public, which contrasts with that applied to the corporate jollyists in the posh boxes.

    As for misapplied criticism of such low-lifes as Blair and Howaard, so what? How many hidden sins are they guilty of that we know not.

    Yer man Marcus seems to hanker for a “balanced View” of the World. But then one man’s balanced view is another’s anaemic fudge. Unbalanced views often provide the basis for a more creative analysis in the long run. Frankly I have an unbalanced view of military adventurism.

    And, before anyone moans about the relevance any of this has to cricket, I refer you to the great CLR James.

  • Will wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 4.49 pm

    Thanks for your comments. Perhaps the post was a little naive, but I don’t pretend that this blog is anything other than a place for me to write about what I wish – be that about action on the field, or corruption off it. If others enjoy it, so be it. I strongly disagree with the dictators running our countries and cricket grounds and will continue to vent about it here.

    Bilbo, I’m not in Australia, I’m in London. I like it here, too. Stop being so precious.

    Reverse: I thought anyone could bring in alcohol to Lord’s. I’m fairly sure it isn’t restricted to MCC members but, if it is, I’ll follow it up at the start of the season as that seems plainly wrong.

    Ernold: yes you’re right, and perhaps I should’ve constructed my post better. But I’m not talking about religion or politics: I’m complaining about the greediness of boards and cricket grounds who, hiding behind a veneer of health and safety, disallow people from enjoying themselves. I’m not advocating mass drunkenness, but if people want to bring in a couple of bottles of wine or beer, they should be allowed to. They should not be forced to pay the exorbitant rates grounds charge, on top of their ticket prices, and I’ll continue to argue that point I’m afraid.

    Sorry if I’ve lost some readers as a result, but I’m not here to beat around the bush and be constrained by political correctness or anything else.

  • ernold same wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 5.18 pm

    Dont think you will have lost readers – healthy, lively debate is what its all about…better than everyone agreeing with each other -and as i said in my follow up point – totally agree with you re ground authorities – i was just being v.pedantic over use of a term.

  • Wraye wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 8.16 pm

    I’ve been quite amused by this thread actually. Blog on, Will and do your own thing. You can still take booze into Lords – 1 bottle of wine or 2 pints of beer per person. Remind me to tell you the story of the champagne cork sometime.

  • glamorous-organ wrote:
    January 6th, 2007 at 8.22 pm

    OOO Will baby, you’ve done it again, the P-word and the C-word, wait for it.

  • Bilbo wrote:
    January 8th, 2007 at 2.10 pm

    Will.

    Well things have improved since you went back to London haven’t they?

    At least now you let me post on your blog again……..

    Now,what were we talking about?,,,,,,,,oh yes, dictators and the nanny state.

    Bilbo

  • Will wrote:
    January 9th, 2007 at 12.09 am

    As I said, Bilbo, I was never in Australia and I’m still not. Thank God!

  • Jim wrote:
    April 17th, 2007 at 10.09 pm

    After reading all of these comments, even though I’m a bit late. Why not just go in Naked? That way they won’t have to worry about hats, shirts advertising or anything. What do you think?

  • Woodyway wrote:
    May 6th, 2007 at 12.36 am

    This was always the best cricket blog and now that Will has cleaned his act up it’s perhaps not as Low-Fi but still the best.
    Main point is should the England/Windies test etc. series go ahead with both teams and their management in such disarray.I suppose it should-time for reflection.

  • Woodyway wrote:
    May 6th, 2007 at 12.55 am

    As for the ‘nanny state’we shold be paying MORE taxes but not in the way Mr.Brown has decided. A lot of people on low incomes will have a nasty shock next year [no more 10% tax band!].To make it a curate’s egg I disagree with the total smoking ban.A lot of people like the odd fag now and again.Not all smokers are addicts and the evidence for ‘passive’ smoking is very spurious.

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