Australia v England, 3rd Test, Perth

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By Will 2 years ago, mid-December Leave a comment on this post

The third Test between Australia and England gets underway tomorrow morning at the ungodly 2.30am GMT. All is not lost for England yet (well, I was bound to say that). Opening this up early as no doubt you splitters won’t have the bottle to stay up all night…we’re on ball-by-ball at Cricinfo so keep tuned there.

Chat away!

Tags: ashes, australia, england, england-in-australia, perth, test-cricket, the-ashes |

Comments to “Australia v England, 3rd Test, Perth” James wrote:
December 13th, 2006 at 9.33 pm

Splitters? Not everyone gets paid to stay up all night watching cricket you know

Trying to get into the heads of Fletcher and Flintoff, I’m guessing this is what’s on the cards:

Strauss
Cook
Bell
Collingwood
Pietersen
Flintoff
Jones
Giles
Hoggard
Harmison
Panesar

The highlight could be GBH and Monty’s 30 partnership off 20 balls as England narrowly fail to bat out day one. Hope they can prove me wrong…

Zonergem wrote:
December 13th, 2006 at 9.42 pm

Panesar and Mahmood are in the XII and Giles isn’t. Only plagues of locusts or Duncan Fletcher can stop Monty playing now, though he has been bowling too flat and quick all tour.

The wicket was soaked on Tuesday and left to bake on Weds in the sun. It has been being intensively rolled but the sense from Ponting was that it will start slowish and quicken up by day 3. However there is much less life in it than previously, as we all know and the worry is that it won’t crack, crumble or deteriorate in any meaningful way at all.

india_fan wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 12.01 am

Sorry, probably a stupid question but who’s GBH?

I hope that Mahmood plays and England win. I really want a contest now that uni’s finished and I have time to watch.

Kathy wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 12.09 am

india_fan: GBH equals Grievous Bodily Harmison…

ernold same wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 12.20 am

Apparently Ricky Ponting, got into an argument a few nights ago, with the actor who plays Lou Carpenter, on Neighbours, in a restaurant in Perth, and pinned him up against the wall. Apparently Lou, said something horrible about some black gloves that Pontings wife was wearing, and he just completly lost it - So my perth eye witness sources/friends tell me.

Gary Pratt? Lou Carpenter? A good omen perhaps.

SuperCujo wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 2.38 am

“ungodly 2.30am GMT”

God, you poms are a bunch of whingers

You seem to forget that when the Ashes are played over on your side of the world, that us Aussies have to stay up late to catch the action. Stop ya bleaing and just take a few sickies during the series.

Tom wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 2.42 am

Good inswing to the left handers, first time the English opening bowlers have been able to swing the new ball; all without the aid of the Fremantle Doctor.

Kathy wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 3.55 am

Oh my God! When Harmison got Ponting, I nearly had heart failure. And then the kids nearly had heart failure when I yelled.

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 4.18 am

…and then Langer gets a life! Dammit! If Oz were 3 down at lunch that would be brilliant. Still, it’s an encouraging morning and it’s good to see that the lads are here with fight in their eyes.

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 4.19 am

GBH = “grievous bodily harmison”.

Sean wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 4.37 am

Go the Montster. Not a bad first seven balls in Ashes cricket. Time for a 40 min catnap.

Kathy wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 4.38 am

69-3. Wake up England, this is worth having your eyes open for.

Kathy wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 4.39 am

69-3. Wake up England, this is worth having your eyes open for. I think Caroline is at this Test â€” she’ll be having a blast.

ernold same wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 4.44 am

Sorry Bilbo - you were saying………….

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 5.23 am

So far so good from Monty. That’s exactly the kind of attacking spin-bowling those of us clamouring for his inclusion expected to see.

Stu wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 6.22 am

Greivous Body Harmisson has become known down under as “Harmlesson” these days. He’s doing a little to rectify that today.

I see Symonds has just been dropped by the only selection error now left in the side - Jones!

Tom wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 7.05 am

Terrific bowling Monty.

Kathy wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 7.11 am

And a damn fine catch by Bell.

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 7.30 am

At tea: Oz 184 for 6 down. We have a real game!

Rishi Gajria wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 7.40 am

Great Going by England. Australia six down. Now they need to try to get the rest out for not very many before the day gets done. So nice to see Harmison bowling well. And Mahmood appears to have good control. Would be interesting to see if he reverse swings it. The ball is over 50 overs old now.

Wraye wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 8.02 am

Hoooee! Morning all. And Monty gets Warnie! If Monty ended up with a five-for, there will be really serious questions about who left him out in the first 2 Tests. From me, for one!

Rah wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 8.11 am

This is more like it! 220/7! Why was Monty left out the first tests??????

Wraye wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 8.32 am

Monty does it! 5-for! Go, boy, go!

Kathy wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 8.45 am

Wraye, such a thrill too to see Harmy firing again.

Wraye wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 8.52 am

Too true. And there goes McGrath. Monty and GBH carried this lot through. Now it’s up to our batsmen to do justice to that effort.

It still beggars the question as to where this fire was in the first 2 Tests?

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 8.54 am

About bloody time too! An excellent performance in the field tied to very good effort by England’s bowlers. This is what I thought we were sending to Oz…

Scott wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 8.58 am

Well done to England, but it sure isn’t over yet. Some lucky decisions from the umpires benefited England, and some poor shot selection from our guys. Still a long way to go yet.

Nick S wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 9.10 am

Nice to see the Aussies trying to spread the blame, but Scott was right to say there was some really shoddy shot selection today. Anyway, these last dozen overs are critical to avoid wasting the bowlers’ great efforts, and it doesn’t end there: whatever the pitch should make tomorrow the quicks’ best day.

Still, we got more stand-up comedy from Jones, including what might have been a drop on Hussey. If he doesn’t contribute with the bat, he can’t expect to keep at Melbourne.

Irim wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 9.21 am

I’m grinning from ear to ear - what a brilliant, brilliant display - THAT’S what I call a bowling attack.
Monty - a 5-fer! Well deserved, and his joy in the game seems to be infectious - the England team are smiling more than I’ve seen them for a long time. Seems like they remember how much they enjoy the game, and it looks to have done them a world of good.
Harmy - It is so good to see him look happy again! And right back into last summer’s form - four wickets - what a boost for his confidence.
You were so right, Kathy - when I woke up at 4, I should have gone down and turned on Sky rather than turning over and going back to sleep!
Well done, lads, and a nice start to your innings.

Irim wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 9.31 am

Erm, can I take that last comment back?

Youch.

James wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 9.59 am

Quite right Irim, above all else infectious enthusiasm is what Monty brings to the side. TMS were trying to come up with a new verb to describe the Monster’s energetic demeanor in the field - the best suggestion I thing was ‘monting’…

Also, if you have Sky and you’re not using it, can I come round and watch it instead?

Kathy wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 10.10 am

Infectious enthusiasm is right. And it’s needed since Flintoff seems to have completely lost his from last year.

Irim wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 10.44 am

*Grin* - come on over, James! My housemate Mark and my friend Rach would love the company! 10am stumps is going to play havoc with work, though - I came down with every intention of leaving the house by 7.50, and didn’t get out till after 8. Plus, I’m going to get RSI in my mouse finger from refreshing the cricinfo page so often (not to mention the books that won’t get catalogued between 9-10).

I have to say, I have rarely been so relieved to see stumps appear on the live scorecard. My nerves are shot, but what fabulous cricket. Roll on tomorrow, whatever happens - it finally looks like a contest between equals, and whoever wins this one will have earned it.

Irim wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 12.12 pm

As for the new verb/adjective, how about:

“Demontsterate” and “demontsterative”?

Caroline wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 12.41 pm

Suggestions for the new verb: to ‘Montificate’.

James wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 12.47 pm

‘emonting’?

Whatever, it looks like this…

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ausveng/content/current/gallery/272548.html

…and it’s good to see

James wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 12.54 pm

oh…

Actually it looks like this:

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/69500/69512.jpg

“Frolicking in the outfield like a lamb on the run from the abattoir” as Cricinfo’s Andrew Miller has it

Wraye wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 1.31 pm

excellent, Caroline!

or maybe montinuate? Do the Aussie now have PMT?

Shirty wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 1.32 pm

Montumental?

finally the team is close to the best XI, and finally they look like they’ve played cricket before.

all that’s needed now is for the best wicket keeper to get a pick….

Woody wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 1.38 pm

Big deal; a finger spinner takes 5 wickets on his ashes debut, whilst carrying the hopes of a nation and an injured captain.

What I want to know is who is going to get us the 10 -25 runs Gilo is good for, eh?

If Pietersen fires we could win this test.

Matt Thornton (Six and Out) wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 2.00 pm

Don’t be surprised if Monty knocks in a maiden test hundred, that’s about the only thing that would knock the cynicism out of me that says he isn’t Shane Warne just yet…

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 4.16 pm

Warne of all people said a few days ago that England should be playing Monty and that the WACA would help the finger-spinner. Warne is a master of playing with his opponents minds, so anything he says has to be taken with a grain of salt, but I believe that in this case he spoke from genuine admiration for Monty. He certainly spoke positively about Monty during the series against Pakistan. Nice to see him be right!

Shirty wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 4.47 pm

warne said before the start of the series that england are a far better side than 2 years ago, purely because of the addition of Monty and Ready, and that monty is a matchwinner with the ball, and to complement that you must pick the best wicket keeper available - Read.

lo and behold, fletcher thinks warne is playing mind games, and leaves both of them out - we go on to go 2-0 down in the series.

Tom wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 8.33 pm

“What I want to know is who is going to get us the 10 -25 runs Gilo is good for, eh?”

When you have a cricketer who stops a player like Symonds in full flight, you don’t need Gile’s meaningless 20 odd runs. Panesar’s 5/92 would be like a Giles 100; even so an attacking spinner who LOOKS to take wickets and cannot bat is far superior to a ‘holding’ spinner who on occasions might give you sting in the tail.

Panesar is far more valuable.

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
December 14th, 2006 at 9.54 pm

Concur 100% on the point by Tom about Monty getting out Symonds for 26. “Roy” was just getting into stride, having decided just what it would take to come down the wicket and attack Panesar. Had he got to 40 he could just as easily gone for a blistering ton. That and getting Gilchrist for a duck (monster catch by Bell) have to be worth a cool 50 runs right there, maybe more. Monty can average 10 for the rest of his career at #11 for all I care if he continues to bowl like that for England.

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 12.21 am

Really, really nice piece here about how things felt (from the English point of view of course) after the end of day one in Perth:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,23069-2506210,00.html

Wraye wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 3.55 am

4.55am Hun time, day 2. Wot? No blog?

Wraye wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 4.19 am

England 114 for 6. Another spectacular England collapse. Bearders on TMS is putting the word of doom on each batsman - Jones has never been out for a duck in 51 innings,a world record, TMS discuss this and Jones is out for a duck. I’m going back to bed. After I finish my beer. Sniff.

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 4.23 am

Where’s Gilo to anchor the number 8 spot with KP? Bring back Gilo!

Wraye wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 4.46 am

Hi Kathy, well Mahmood has to grow up quick. But hey, look on the bright side - at 122, we are half way there and we still have the excellent Hoggy, Harmy and Monty to take us to tea

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 4.50 am

Yup, Wraye, I’m sure Hoggy’ll manage to block for about 1.2 overs!

Looks like all Monty and GBH’s great work is going the same way as Hoggard’s 7-fer in Adelaide.

Wraye wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 5.01 am

Yup, Kathy, same old, same old…

I think all of us old hats thought that yesterday before those 2 wickets fell, and knew it for sure afterwards. But fair dues, the Aussies are playing well.

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 5.10 am

Yeah but England have the talent not to do this, Wraye. They don’t have to collapse.

Australia are bowling well, but so did England yesterday. Don’t know what causes this. And Freddie is seriously out of form â€” this tour is doing bugger all for him. It’s not over though, until it’s over.

ernold same wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 5.23 am

‘And when the real rain comes…..its gonna wipe of all the scum off the streets…’Robert De Niro. Taxi Driver. 1979.

PS….if my brother is on here…then boo to you…i have your lap top sucker! A ha ha!

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 6.44 am

I love these 10th wicket partnerships â€” they piss the fielding side off so much.

ernold same wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 6.50 am

kathy….i know….just hope we can get near their total…something tells me this game is going to be close…

Wraye wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 6.51 am

More PMT for Oz, Monty is not going to let go!

ernold same wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 6.54 am

Ps…kathy….loved the stuff about tres…knew you’d come round…

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 7.01 am

Eh, ernold??

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 7.03 am

Harmy’s got the 3rd highest score! These two are fab.

ernold same wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 7.12 am

Sorry…maybe it wasnt you….i was saying, and this was going back a few months back mind…how i thought it was shocking, although sadly predictable…for the ‘media’…if one can call them that (the quality of sports journalism in this country is mind numbingly bland and moronic…unfortunatly anything good is written by proper writers…amis, barnes, hornby et al)…to pry into his affairs….like we have a right to know?!….anyway….i remember you saying some nice stuff about it all…and well….it was just nice….and seemed to really go against (but maybe not)…what you were originally saying…

and i am now completly sleep deprived…

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 7.19 am

Ernold â€” oh, I see, I thought you were talking about something I said today. Yeah, I did feel for Tres and was a bit angry at some of the sneering at him, but I was always on his side rather than coming round to that view. But I think in the end he was treated reasonably sympathetically, in Australia as well. Would love to see him back some day.

Wraye wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 9.27 am

Never mind Tres, let the poor bloke have a good rest. Bring back Graham Thorpe!

James wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 9.55 am

“The highlight could be GBH and Montyâ€™s 30 partnership off 20 balls as England narrowly fail to bat out day one. Hope they can prove me wrongâ€¦”

OK, it was 39 off 59 balls, and they totally failed to bat out day two.

Funny I was just thinking how much more reassuring it would be to see Thorpe (37) striding out to bat than Bell or Collingwood. I see he did well in the ashes legends game, but unfortunately for England Australia prefer to play *their* ashes legends in the first team.

Tom wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 10.07 am

Another intruiging day of cricket, 300 odd runs for 9 wickets.

Ponting and Hayden got away from England in the last session, but two quick wickets tomorrow morning can change it all.

Irim wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 10.53 am

Totally agreed Kathy - England have the talent not to do this - they’re just pissing their opportunities up the wall. How we get our boys to REALLY value their wickets is beyond me. The shot selections I saw on replays were shocking.

I was feeling a bit down, so I thought I’d amuse my fellow Catholic cricket fans and maybe some High Anglican ones with the following re-write of the mass.

I am so going to hell for this, but it will be oh so worth it:

V: Blessed art thou, our new bowling attack, for limiting the Aussies to under 300 and giving our batters an easy chance. We are sorry they wasted it.
R: Blessed be the bowlers in this match and all that follow.

V: Blessed art thou, Kevin Pietersen, no. 5 batsmen, for helping our innings to over 200 and holding the tail together. Please value your essential wicket more highly.
R: Blessed be Kevin in this match and all that follow.

Preface for the third day:

O game of heaven, it is right that we should always give thanks for you: you are the one Game of the heavenly hosts. Through all eternity you are played by those in unapproachable light.

Source of summer joy and agony, you have shown us many things, to teach God’s creatures with every inning and help all men to understand the necessity of balance. May we always remember that good bowling must be capitalised on by good batting, or we will always lose, and never learn every lesson you have to offer us.

United with the angelic teams, and in the name of every creature under heaven and the words of 10cc, we too sing your praises as we say:

We don’t like cricket, oh no, we love it.

Shirty wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 11.07 am

is that REALLY going to work? i thought the muslims had first dibs on the true god of cricket - apparently allah is to be thanked for all of mohammad yousufs big runs recently? good that he has time to take an interest, what with all the other things going on in the world.

Irim wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 11.34 am

Couldn’t tell you if it’s going to work, Shirty, as it was just a chance to be a bit irreverent, cheer up despondent friends, and put a different spin (pun intended) on things.

As for Mohammad Yousuf, perhaps converting and feeling like he finally fit into the team made a difference for him, rather than divine intervention. Don’t know him, couldn’t say.

And yes, God has far bigger things to worry about - but a little humour to lighten the darkness never hurt.

Wraye wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 2.02 pm

Amen.

jake wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 2.57 pm

This says it all for me….

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ausveng/content/current/story/272672.html

cricketgirl wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 4.45 pm

Bigger things to worry about than saving the series until Sydney, when we (England…) gloriously beat Australia by an innings and 500 runs, after Monty takes three hatricks in a row? And KP makes 800 runs? And Mike Hussey and Ricky Ponting are out first ball in both innings…?

Oh, yeah, you’re probably right. But the fantasy is a good one, and I’m going to be dreaming it for the next few months…

At least we have Warney’s 700 to look for. Incidentally, anyone know if it’s hard to get an Aussie passport?

miles down-legside wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 6.34 pm

Aussie passport ?

Yes just have your antecedents get convicted of something or the other, and hey presto !

Sorry…. I’ll get my coat.

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 6.57 pm

Good one, Irim. I’m sure Him Upstairs is not as concerned with blasphemy as some might think â€” in fact he’s bound to approve of a lust for life (where life=cricket). Our Kiwi umpire Billy Bowden, who’s fairly devout, calls God his Third Umpire.

meditations71 wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 7.15 pm

This is all terribly frustrating for those of us latecomers to cricket commentary and statistics, from lands of no ball and bat sports. Not to mention what alarm clocks going off at 02:30 am does to one’s daytime concentration ability.

So it’s not always like the Ashes 2005, after all…

Wraye wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 8.32 pm

Ah, Meditations71, be grateful to be a latecomer! Be joyous in your memories of 2005. We old-timers remember the wastelands of the 70s and 80s when the WIndies invoked fear in everyone. England had some good times - I was a student at Manchester Uni during the 1981 Ashes - wow! Celebrated so much that I barely remember the games - thank God for video!

The only “Test” nation I have not seen live over 30 years fandom is Zimbabwe.

England are losing - get used to it, it happens more often than you might think. We have great phases every 20 years or so which is pretty abysmal considering that we invented this great game.

Sigh.

Kathy wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 9.48 pm

No offence, Jake, but I find Andrew Miller’s take on things intensely irritating. I think he’s a bitter and twisted conspiracy theorist. He wrote a whole long article last week full of paranoia and cooked-up conspiracy based solely on the fact that Michael Vaughan wouldn’t talk to the press after fielding at one of the Perth matches. As far as I was concerned, it was completely obvious why Vaughan was there â€” to carry on getting fit and to spend some time on the field with some of the players whom he may be leading again in a few weeks. (And frankly, no matter what Vaughan does, he can’t win. He either talks to the press and is accused of undermining Freddie, or he doesn’t talk which results in all this ludicrous speculation a la Miller.) But oh no, this was beyond Miller who had to turn it into an epic mystery of Da Vinci Code proportions.

I think Fletcher and Flintoff took some punts which went wrong. If Ashes ‘05 had fallen over, everyone would have been abusing Fletcher for picking Pietersen and Bell instead of Thorpe and someone else. You could equally blame Fletcher for picking the wrong captain, since a majority of the public in England thought Strauss should have been it. I think the team were on the back foot right from the start of the tour with a litany of injuries, a shocking schedule which left them underprepared, and a half-fit rookie captain who clearly wasn’t the best leader. And they didn’t perform, or they only performed in patches, which wasn’t enough. Monty clearly should have been picked earlier and I was surprised he wasn’t but there’s no way of knowing whether his presence would have altered any of the results. There’s 11 players in the team, not just one. A string of batting collapses have nothing to do with one spinner.

meditations71 wrote:
December 15th, 2006 at 10.43 pm

Thanks for the comments Wraye. I THINK I know what may be in store, in terms of longer-term England (mis)fortunes. Two of the most fascinating players to watch at the moment I think are Kevin Pietersen and Mkhaya Ntini, both incidentally South African although of course now playing in rather different climes.

At some point, although I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, it would be interesting to know what newspaper cricket columnists and commentaries on cricket, and what other cricket reading the long-time fans here find to be of particularly high quality?

Wraye wrote:
December 16th, 2006 at 2.50 am

Medi71, it’s a beautiful game, win or lose. Recomended reading is:

stick with this blog
follow cricinfo.com
find your countries website - where are you from?
buy Wisden, expensive but worth it

or follow over-by-over on timesonline.co.uk or the guardian.co.uk or bbc.co.uk/tms

Bilbo wrote:
December 16th, 2006 at 3.47 am

Cricketgirl,

An Aussie passport? Easy to get. If your female, you must be less than 5 feet tall, long blonde hair, blue eyes, reasonable endowed and have a flat head.

If yer a male, you must be able to bowl spin and get “5 fer” at the WACA. Having a trade will help. Monty now has his passport and we’ve given him an “Honorary Electricianship”.

The WACA this morning is hot and ’twill get hotter - 36 to 38C. It’s also humid which is why your bowlers are getting the swing. The “Fremantle Doctor” will be in this arvo, the humidity will vanish and so will the swing.

Bilbo

Ahmad Nasir wrote:
December 16th, 2006 at 7.02 am

Flintoff can be a capt of one day squad. Strauss be the the capt of test squad. England board should revisit their palns for test cricket…..

Bilbo wrote:
December 16th, 2006 at 12.11 pm

Ahmad,

Vaughan can’t even walk straight! Let’s not ask the ECB to do too much at one time just now. It taxes them so,,,,

Bilbo

meditations71 wrote:
December 16th, 2006 at 9.55 pm

Wraye: indeed Wisden cricketer and the cricinfo websites are very informative. Indeed, the cricinfo site is arguably one of the most well-presented and comprehensive sports websites around. Cricket buff care about their statistics and facts, and the history of the game, and it shows.

As for country websites, I tend to keep up with the UK and South African news coverage. Writing from Ulster I’m not exactly in the heartland of cricket!

ernold same wrote:
December 18th, 2006 at 11.25 pm

Like i said kathy -most of it’s v.tabloid.

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