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Erm, would it be ok to suggest that it was “Murali wrong”?
*ducks for cover*
Every cricketer at every level of the game would have run the batsman out in that situation. It has nothing to do with SL being from the sub-continent or getting some perverse revenge for Chappell’s underarm bowling.
It is a crucial point that if overthrows had occurred the batsmen would have taken them – there’s no question about that. The keeper had no alternative – the ball is live and the batsman is out of his ground.
It’s a no brainer really!!!
Murali was out. Simple. The laws state it as such.
The NZ players are d1cks for doing it though. Hes not trying to run. His leaving the crease wasnt an accident. Not the first time NZ have done this either. The wheel turns, Mr Fleming. It always does.
Murphy,
Dont generalize it. In champions trophy Sangakara didnt run out Astle even though he was out of the crease. Sangakara was gentleman enough to ask Astle to come back to his crease.
Wow, there really are a lot of whingers here! Why do people put supporting their team above the rules of cricket? Why?!?
For the benefit of the whingers, maybe they should now amend Law 23 (dead ball) to include…
Law 23 (Deal Ball)
1(a) The ball becomes dead when
(xi) – Murali thinks so
1(b) [amend by removing 'fielding side']
2 Whether the ball is finally settled or not is a matter for the umpire [and Murali] to decide.
3. (b) Either umpire shall call and signal Dead ball when
(x) a Sri Lankan batsmen starts celebrating a century
(xi) the square leg umpire blinks, or any other bodily movement
(xii) there is a likelihood of whinging fans trying to spoil our beautiful game
Dan_Boy ur nothing more than a buffoon..I still say this is worse than the chappel incident..Murali is out..no doubt abt that!!..and no one is saying he’s not out!!!..but all am trying to say is that there is a thing called sportsmanship…sadly the kiwis lack it..if u guys had the balls to say the aussies were not being sportsmen at that time..i say now the kiwis are not being sporty..simple as that..
well said IAmTheBear…THE WHEELS TURN MR.FLEMING!
Infact doing this to a team that let Astle bat even when he could have been run out is so sad!!..
All the very best to the Sri Lankan Cricket Team…This should fire you guys up…
Funkmaster RE: “I still say this is worse than the chappel incident..”
REALLY?
“Murali brought this situation about by his
stupidity. There is no other way to simplify the
situation.If he hadn’t done what he did, he would
not have got out.
In 1981, Brian McKechnie and Bruce Edgar did
nothing to bring that situation about other
playing good cricket.â€
Worse than the underarm???? Give me a break!
I would rate the underarm 1st equal with BODYLINE if not 1st outright (in terms of unsporting behavior).
The kiwi’s needed six off the last ball – and Chappel purposly denied them even the slightest chance of winning the game.
Hitting a 6 off the last ball is not easy under any situation. Especially at the MCG!!!! where the boundaries are massive.
The Murali run out did not deny SL much, as he was a tail-ender holding up the end of an very lackluster innings (aside from Sangakarra).
Sangakarra’s knock has been vastly overshadowed by this – I watched it, and he was amazing.
There’s been well over a 100 posts on this and you still get the odd joker coming along and explaining why the ball was not dead and that Murali was legally out. I found the dude trying to amend the dead ball law quite hilarious. Hellooo, nobody, I repeat NOBODY is disputing that fact.
We are talking about the spirit of the game and sportsmanship in cricket. Bottom line – it was cheap shot by the Kiwis… and what makes it even more stupid is the fact they did not need to do that to win the game. You can call Murali stupid for leaving his crease while the ball was alive, but does it take a greater lack of intelligence to behave unsportingly when you really don’t need to? (same as trying to amend the dead ball law when nobody has questioned it)
Murali was out, but New Zealand was “OUT OF ORDER”. As a pom, we normally expect this disgraceful lack of sportsmanship from the Aussies, not kiwis.
As for bodyline being disgraceful, that’s just another Aussie whinge, which has unfortunately removed Jardine from his rightful place as a great captain and moderniser of the game.
Do you really wish the game was still played without a little “chin music”? Were players in the 1930s really incapable of ducking?
Cant blame the keeper. He was watching the ball come in. Whipping off the bails the instant he suspects the batsman is out of his crease is any keepers first instinct.
Cant blame the umpire. Laws are laws and we dont want any (more) grey areas to unnecessarily come into the game.
Can definitely blame Murali. What on earth was he thinking!!??
Cant help but feel sorry for the Lankan captain. He didnt deserve that after getting his century.
I have to side with the Kiwis here. At least until I hear about the recent warning given to Astle. Fleming or Astle (was he playing in this game?) should have remembered Kumar’s classy and honourable deed and called the batsman back. It is a pity that such sportsmanship was not repaid.
Piss off VHG. Bodyline was a disgrace, and the single most unsporting act in cricket history. A ‘little’ chin music? Six-ball all-bouncer overs is not ‘a little’. Deliberately trying to injure a batsman – not intimadate, injure – was a weak, desperate gambit from a second-rate side. Jardine is rightfully remembered as a prick.
So you expect Aussies to be unsporting, yet you excuse this? This is about NZ and the SLs, yet you managed to drag in that old-fashioned yet still-prevalent British racism, which is why Aussies love crushing you so much. Wanker.
Does Chuckerdaran get to call the ball ‘dead’ in mid-air, like some powers acquired in ‘The Matrix’?
Just plain dumb. If Sri Lankan cricket wants to claw back some credibility it needs to stop blaming everyone else and smarten up. They’ve already wasted a generation.
Funny game – and equally funny perspectives. If the shoe was on the other foot, and SL had run out a Kiwi in a similiar manner, it would have been termed “unsporting” and “against the spirit of the game”, but in the current circumstance, its “within the law”. I guess the debate between “laws” and “spirit” will never end – I also wonder how the Kiwis had felt when they were at the recieving end of the famous “underarm bowling incident” – again within the laws of the time but so totally against the spirit of the game. It makes me rethink my opinion about Fleming, who till yesterday I considered a shining example of the gentleman’s game, who has now proven that he is also merely a mortal like the rest of his cricketing fraternity and a willing participant in actions that contravene the spirit of the game, as long as it is in his best interest. After all, when a win is at stake, who cares about spirit – I’ll take mine in a glass please – on the rocks!!
13th man…
The 1932/33 England side was no weaker (It had at least 4 all time greats in Sutcliffe, Hammond, Verity and Larwood) than the mid-seventies Aussie teams. So I dont see how you can call it second-rate. If I remember correctly, one of the test matches was won by Verity’s left arm spin and I dont think bodyline was used in that test at all.
Lillian Thomson broke more bones (Actually bodyline didnt break any…Oldfield was hit while no bodyline field was in place) than bodyline. I remember they broke a few bones then.
Who was it who said that they preferred to see blood on the pitch than to get a wicket? That was a certain Australian fast bowler from ’75. So it is a bit rich to go back 70 years to complain about another team trying to injure people.
andysensei, bodyline was cited by someone else – I merely responded. Had the English team been as good as they – and you – thought, they’d have not come up with bodyline in the first place. Irrespective of other examples, bodyline was unsporting, and should be remembered as such. That doesn’t negate the fact that other acts perpetrated by other teams have also been unsporting.
Lashan – I thought thr post you were refering to was actually quitee witty, and i just wsh a few more people (like you) would have more a sence of humor. I guess you didnt realise that the joke was on people like you? as for people comparing this with Bodyline and underarm – they know NOTHING bout cricket.
I wished people would realise that there is no g round for sporty/unsport behaviour or debate here; The umpire was not mistaked or unsighted, the cricket laws are very clear and unambiguous (and the dead-ball rules are most improtant), the players did not try ANYTHING underhnd, the umpire did not cheat, Murali was not unsighted, it was not end of over. As someone said earlier – unsporty behaviour needs a greay area. Here no greay area. Anybod thinking this unsporty is either terrbily bias (pro-Lanka, anti,NZ), or does not care for profesional cricket.
in addition, i wish people would realize cricket is now a professional sport, played by professionals, umpired by professionals. We are not talk garden cricket here.
Also, i think the sangakkara -Astle incident did not happen in Champions Trophy, but i could be wrong. Astle says has no recollection, and I can find no match report at time referring to this incident.
The outrage over this incident is why I’ve become less-and-less a fan of cricket and ready to throw my fandom toward baseball.
Rules are rules. In baseball if a runner wanders away from his base, then a pitcher and first-basemen would be unprofessional idiots not to use that advantage and make the out.
I want to see a contest, not eat cucumber sandwichwes and patronize players with “jolly good show” pats on the back. Anything else is a waste of my time. If Murali wants to go walkabout when the ball is still alive and in play, then fair game to the NZers for taking advantage of an unprofessional dunce.
Do we not see bowlers and fielders forever screaming LBW appeals at the umpire? Are they not trying to get an edge? Are these fielders not exhibiting “unsporting behaviour” by unduly attempting to influence the judgment of the umpire?
Then how is that in any respect different from taking what Muralitharan gifted them? If Muralitharan’s leg pad prevents a bowl from hitting the stumps, NZers would be stoopid not to scream for LBW. And if Muralitharan goes walkabout, those same NZers would be equally stupid not to make him pay the consequence.
Rumour has it that Murali chucked a real hissy fit in the dressing room, but the SL management denied it saying he bowled one instead
Gav – LOL!!!
Kyle, agreed – the post was quite witty, but totally missing the point. I was merely trying the highlight to all the people insisting that the ball was not dead and the dismissal was legal that they are absolutely right, nobody has disputed that.
On the subject of professionalism, well I am of the opinion that sportsmanship and playing the game in the right spirit is an integral part of being a professional. The two are not mutually exclusive. And I am pretty sure that people would have noticed by now that cricket is a professional sport.
This incident along with the series of incidents over the past few months, not to forget the controversial run outs of Inzamam and ball tempering issue at the Oval-England together with the disgraceful incident with Indian cricket board’s president on the reception ceremony of the champions trophy India, are enough to indicate that the growing influence of Asian block countries in the domain of cricket has have incensed the colonial minded bigoted lunatics, who are exposing their culture and democratic values to everyone with the passage of time.
[http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/nzvsl/content/current/story/272565.html]
Fleming’s most recent interview performance demonstrates why thrashing about is not the best option in the quicksand of embarrassment.
Top marks to the Sri Lankan Captain who continues to take the high road, much to the envy of Fleming.
It was awful to see Kiwis getting Murali out like that. Umpires should have taken a UUI and drug tests (UUI = Umpiring Under the influence)
Lashan – glad you founf the pst funny too. I still think post didnot miss point – hence it made fun of the whiners on this bored,. If anyone thinks this was unsporty, then I thnk they have to identifie where is grey area. For exampel, if was a precedence of wicketkeeprs NOT running out playrs accidentally leaving their crease (the allaged Sangakkara-Astle is not a precednt!), then OK, we can talk.
Remember diCanio in Premiership? This was grey area because DiCanio thought that referee miss the goalkeepr with injured head. That was very sporty beaviour.
Moreover, I think people claiming unsporty here also have to shw that NOT running Murali would NOT have unfortunate side effects. What if ball had been overthrown for four runs?… do the rules allow for Murali to not accept the runs? This is what the humourous post was saying (I think). And i wish people stop talking Gilchrist walking – he vehemently claims many wickets as wicket keper that are clearly not out…
Whiongers – stop pretending we playing amateur sport just to cover up disappointment with Lanka msitake.
Stephen fleming is gay
It was unsportive action by the Kiwis
The umpire was really biased and prejudiced to be so stupid, so we can excuse him.
well well well…The Sri Lankans are firing all cylinders!!…and Gosh!!..poor McCullum..hahahaha what?? someone broke his leg!!!..and finger??..hahahaha…WHAT A FUNNY GAME!!!…CRICKET LOVELY CRICKET…GO SRI LANKA…
If it were a kiwi that was so dumb as to leave his crease in that situation and get out, I, and most the kiwi cricket supporters I know would be spewing – at the batter, not the other teams keeper. he batter would be getting hell from all the kiwis in the crowds for the next few matches.
There would be some pissed at the keeper, but the facts would speak for themselvesd and we would be venting on the batter.
‘Sportsmanship’ today, especially in cricket, is very very subjective. All the teams that have hit the headlines for ‘unsportsmanlike’ behaviour ahve laid the foundation for what we see on and off the field today.
So if the game isn’t gentlemaly enough for you now, then perhaps Bodyline, tampering, bribery, drugs, sex (and probably some rock and roll in here somewhere),underarm bowling, bent arm bowling, refusing to play (despite the public – those who pay the cricketers, having already paid for tickets!)have all had something to do with it.
An instinctive and clever piece of cricket to run out Murali is so far down the list of sportmanship sins, in my humble and subjective opinion. So, perhaps it is time to let go of the ‘kiwis are the most evil team in the world” sentiments?
New Zealand would have won anyway? – it was a low-scoring test and there were no guarantees. Sangakarra was on fire, farming the strike brilliantly.
On the cricket – Sri Lanka are playing brilliantly right now, and good on them.
Murali was naive, no doubt, but how can the whole of New Zealand defend (unsporting) McCullum? (Fleming should get a lesson or two on sportsmanship from Tana)
Gayath – its wrong to tar brush New Zealand as a nation of single cell organisms. Writing for the NZ Herald, Dylan Cleaver presents a more balanced view of the whole episode and of Kiwi cricket. Check it out [ http://www.nzherald.co.nz/author/story.cfm?a_id=193&objectid=10414673 ].
Moving on to the second test that’s in progress, one can’t help but speculate that the Sri Lankans have responded to the McCullum episode and Flemming’s stupid comments at the start of the second test.
A Sri Lankan tour of New Zealand just prior to the 1996 World Cup triggered a similar reversal of resolve. The Sri Lankans arrived in New Zealand as a clutch of bunnies and endured a horrid time in the field. Before the tour was over, they’d won the two test series 1-0 (first overseas series win) and even though they lost the ODI series 1-2 they went in to the World Cup campaign with a determination never before seen in Sri Lankan cricket. In one of those interviews, post-World Cup, Arjuna Ranatunga credited the Kiwis for helping him marshal his troops.
This time around, the Sri Lankans may not win the World Cup but they will thank the Kiwis for helping them try. It looks like Malinga has already sent a thank you card or two to McCullum.
Apologies Vasee, I was referring more to the kiwi’s (NZ cricket team).
Fleming’s just couldn’t swallow it I think (the ‘spirit of cricket’ award).
Fleming is the villain in this piece as was Greg Chappell in “The Underarm Incident” (apparently it’s capitalised in New Zealand). A few deep breaths and a withdrawal of the appeal is all that was needed to put this to rights. Unfortunately no amount of bravado and rule-quoting will restore NZ to the high moral ground.
Is there a rule that says the umpire cannot move during play? I don’t think so. If the umpire wants to move (as long as it doesn’t obstruct the fielding side, the bowler during his delivery, or the batsman during his stroke) what’s the problem? Watch the players in the current Ashes series from both sides. They stand with their bats inside the crease until they are CERTAIN the ball is dead. They look around to check where the ball is and where the fielders are. ANY side (Australia, England, Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, etc.) would have taken that wicket. I’m a staunch Australian supporter, and even Ponting for all his talk about upholding the spirit of the game would have taken that wicket, regardless of who the opposing team were.
The reality is that Murali was out of his crease when THE BALL WAS STILL IN PLAY. It doesn’t matter what he thought was happening, or what the umpire was doing, or that he was confused. The ball had not been returned to the keeper, and if the return throw had gone over the keeper’s head, therefore presenting the opportunity for another run, I have no doubt Sangakarra and/or Murali would have called for it – regardless of the fact that Sangakarra was already waving his bat around and Murali was 1/4 of the way down the pitch. They’re trying to win a match (and a series) not sit around and play nice.
PS – I don’t think this incident can be viewed in the same light to the underarm incident. Now that WAS against the spirit of the game. However, I think that 25 years later New Zealand should find something else to focus all their sporting attention on. What about Fleming outright admitting he had used the bonus point system in the 2002 VB series to give NZ the greatest opportunity to reach the final. This was summed-up as:
“Not only has it produced play far away from the spirit of the game…”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/specials/australia_v_south_africa/1797490.stm
Now the Cricket communite should look at this and need to ban the umpire for atleast 6 months. I’ll responsible bahaviour of the umpire. The cricket communitie always put the prusurre to the players. Now the time is come to punish or ban the umpires who have a very bad eye view.
Very very unfair to Sri Lanka….
I’m embarrassed to see this type of work done by my countrymen. Why do we need umpire to play for us? It is the last wicket….Couldn’t our team get this wicket in the next few overs… ??? And it is a moment of celebrating partner’s century… Even opponents great men !!! Cricket is known as the Gentlemen’s game.
Don’t encourage this type of things… This only gets us a match victory. But it kills our nation’s pride.
Sam
Eat S_it kiwis, you made a fatal mistake in the first test but getting murali and sangi angry and you got FLOGGED IN THE SECOND!!
NZ CRICKET IS BORING AND I HATE WATCHING THE KIWIS PLAY!
So Elliot, Doesn’t that mean that the umpire has already declared that it’s time for the next ball…. meaning that the previous ball is dead? I hope anybody is not an idiot to see this is nothing about laws and rules in cricket… It’s just the manners that matters in such a situation… and it seems that the kiwis’ don’t have it!
Dear freiends,
We should cut the crab as the kiwis got the severe punishment in Game-2……
This is really unsporting.
Hi all,
This is not that much rediculous act of Kiwi Wicket Keeper. Murali has to be there in the crease as far as the ball not dead in state.
It’s Murali’s own mistake and he is over enthusiastic to congratualte his teammate. That’s secondary thing to do, first he has to be not out for his team.
Regards,
Srikanth.
Mccullum is the man
New Zealanders have a deep psychological need to feel done-over unfairly by the Aussies … thus the “outrage” at the underarm bowling episode. It provided them with a cultural inferiority-complex-indignation-symbolic THING. This incident of running out Murali is so much worse it doesnt matter.
Go to NZ .. watch their news.. its all “Australia This.. Australia That”.. “Australia-Australia-Australia … we hate Australia”
It reminds me of a little dog running back & forth along a neighbours fence barking furiously at the big dog next door. The big dog .. he’s not in the slightest bit interested.. He’s got a lot more important stuff on his mind.
Australians hardly give New Zealand a second thought .. in fact.. where is New Zealand anyway.I dont know.
Come on Kiwis… get over it. Grow up. Get a life.
But I’m glad in some ways about the Murali incident .. if some pathetic Kiwi brings up the Underarm incident again .. I can whack him down with this one.
As for the underarm ball.. I say.. right ball for the right time. Nothing.. nothing … nothing wrong with it at all. Aussies .. get over it too. It was never wrong in the first place.
In response to now what was that silly little aussies name thats right john wilkins had to look that one up so many australian failures lately i get them confused.
Murali is just a cheat who gets away with murder because he is from the sub continent plain and simple i say good on mccullum for running out the little git.
As for the underarm incident i bet the west island(australia for those not up to date with new zealands prison colony) wished it could have sent down a few more in the latest chappell(isnt that the name of that drug smuggling cow) hadlee series even when resting 4 of our front line players you still couldnt defend 300+ weak girls weak.
I think its about to retire grandads army they have a pop gun attack thats about as accurate as johny howard on the Iraq war.
Sleep well ozzies as come world cup time you wont be.
Yohan – sad sad little man just because you team is going the same path as the ozzie team dads army no go to the corner and cry
I really dont mind who wins a game… as long as it is a good one. I actually love New Zealand.. the country and the people and the great style of cricket (let alone their Rugby Union)… I’ve spent several months walking NZ tracks, and admire NZ sport… for a small country they kick arse. I just get dissapointed by the endless need to express anti-Aussie rhetoric. You Kiwis are good enough… be proud of it… you dont need to go down this track of whinging … it’s getting to sound more like the Poms every day.
This is not the first time McCallum stooped to this level. He did a similar thing with the Zimbabwe number 11. And that match wasn’t even close. It’s nothing but downright disgraceful behaviour. The Kiwi’s have no right to complain about the underarm ball etc after this lot!
HA HA HA – what goes around comes around Kiwis!
Damnit Matt, beat me to it.
Kiwi hypocrites.