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	<title>Comments on: Ashes hype on TV in Australia</title>
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		<title>By: Woodyway</title>
		<link>http://www.cricket.mailliw.com/archives/2006/09/22/ashes-hype-on-tv-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-110812</link>
		<dc:creator>Woodyway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now then.Jonathan Agnew has gone on record to say that he would rather talk to us punters than talk to G.Boycott and the latter disapproves of the Barmy Army.Discuss.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now then.Jonathan Agnew has gone on record to say that he would rather talk to us punters than talk to G.Boycott and the latter disapproves of the Barmy Army.Discuss.:)</p>
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		<title>By: japaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>japaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 07:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chappell is a very good and instictive judge,however amongst the rank and file nobody in Australia gives England much of a chance; which is a little suprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chappell is a very good and instictive judge,however amongst the rank and file nobody in Australia gives England much of a chance; which is a little suprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Innocent Abroad</title>
		<link>http://www.cricket.mailliw.com/archives/2006/09/22/ashes-hype-on-tv-in-australia/comment-page-1/#comment-110130</link>
		<dc:creator>Innocent Abroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this story is probably a first:

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ausveng/content/current/story/260411.html

Successful Australian former captain says Poms have picked right skipper (and implies that his own side have picked the wrong one) - so why pretend it&#039;s about Steve Harmison? Some people don&#039;t know a news story when it pokes them in the eye...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this story is probably a first:</p>
<p><a href="http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ausveng/content/current/story/260411.html" rel="nofollow">http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ausveng/content/current/story/260411.html</a></p>
<p>Successful Australian former captain says Poms have picked right skipper (and implies that his own side have picked the wrong one) &#8211; so why pretend it&#8217;s about Steve Harmison? Some people don&#8217;t know a news story when it pokes them in the eye&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SpryCorpse</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpryCorpse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the Barmy Army were so effective during all those interminable years of lose, lose, lose to the Aussies.  Now that England have a few decent players that have stones to match their talents, I&#039;m a little reluctant to give the B.A. too much credit.
They have, however, undoubtedly changed a day at the cricket from something relaxing and enjoyable to a definition of hell - especially for the poor unfortunates that are in the immediate vicinity.  So that&#039;s an achievement, I suppose....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the Barmy Army were so effective during all those interminable years of lose, lose, lose to the Aussies.  Now that England have a few decent players that have stones to match their talents, I&#8217;m a little reluctant to give the B.A. too much credit.<br />
They have, however, undoubtedly changed a day at the cricket from something relaxing and enjoyable to a definition of hell &#8211; especially for the poor unfortunates that are in the immediate vicinity.  So that&#8217;s an achievement, I suppose&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Woodyway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woodyway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come to think of it did Japaddy say win? Does anyone know the way out of here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it did Japaddy say win? Does anyone know the way out of here?</p>
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		<title>By: Woodyway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woodyway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japaddy.Sorry-or I&#039;ll be tasting the whip not given lightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japaddy.Sorry-or I&#8217;ll be tasting the whip not given lightly.</p>
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		<title>By: Woodyway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woodyway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a fought yer after or Jawaddys&#039; whip.

Is Auvergne related to Bishop Odo.Anyway,great place for a hols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a fought yer after or Jawaddys&#8217; whip.</p>
<p>Is Auvergne related to Bishop Odo.Anyway,great place for a hols.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Englishmen are stupid...</description>
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		<title>By: wiggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about ? All the Aussies need in order to win is Glenn McGrath shoring up one end and Brett Lee steaming in at the other. With the form he&#039;s in, the Pom&#039;s will be getting &quot;injured&quot; so they don&#039;t have to face him on the pitch. If you don&#039;t believe me, see how long Vaughn&#039;s recovery takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about ? All the Aussies need in order to win is Glenn McGrath shoring up one end and Brett Lee steaming in at the other. With the form he&#8217;s in, the Pom&#8217;s will be getting &#8220;injured&#8221; so they don&#8217;t have to face him on the pitch. If you don&#8217;t believe me, see how long Vaughn&#8217;s recovery takes.</p>
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		<title>By: Innocent Abroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Innocent Abroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We seem to be getting the hang of this business of winding up the Aussies... the Beeb is reporting Vaughan as saying that the selection of the squad was &quot;easy&quot; and that none of them will be &quot;fazed&quot; by playing in Australia, although he didn&#039;t go so far as to mention Monty by name :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We seem to be getting the hang of this business of winding up the Aussies&#8230; the Beeb is reporting Vaughan as saying that the selection of the squad was &#8220;easy&#8221; and that none of them will be &#8220;fazed&#8221; by playing in Australia, although he didn&#8217;t go so far as to mention Monty by name <img src='http://www.cricket.mailliw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: japaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>japaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the barmy army, forget the agro; both teams are a bowler short, if England win a few tosses and the top order can cooly accumulate it will be very hard for Australia to WIN the series, i&#039;m looking forward to a massive contest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the barmy army, forget the agro; both teams are a bowler short, if England win a few tosses and the top order can cooly accumulate it will be very hard for Australia to WIN the series, i&#8217;m looking forward to a massive contest.</p>
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		<title>By: auvergne</title>
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		<dc:creator>auvergne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decent of you to say so; I was concerned it would come over as a bit preachy and irrelevant!

My point about the wager is that I think the Aussies will not be put under sustained pressure, and will run out easy winners. Certainly, Ponting can spit the dummy (but he&#039;s always had a different temperament from Flintoff - and his batting seems to thrive on it), but I don&#039;t think he&#039;ll have sufficient cause to do so on home soil. 

I don&#039;t underestimate that ability of the B.A. to get under skins, but I think their success in doing that in this series depends on the team&#039;s success on the field, and it&#039;s this I&#039;m not sanguine about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decent of you to say so; I was concerned it would come over as a bit preachy and irrelevant!</p>
<p>My point about the wager is that I think the Aussies will not be put under sustained pressure, and will run out easy winners. Certainly, Ponting can spit the dummy (but he&#8217;s always had a different temperament from Flintoff &#8211; and his batting seems to thrive on it), but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;ll have sufficient cause to do so on home soil. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t underestimate that ability of the B.A. to get under skins, but I think their success in doing that in this series depends on the team&#8217;s success on the field, and it&#8217;s this I&#8217;m not sanguine about.</p>
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		<title>By: Justcoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justcoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cogent arguement:

But I think you underestimate the macho desire of your traditional Aussie to dominate; and the frustration that comes from the failure to do so.

My Tenner remains on a big Ponting wind-up before Jan 5th 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cogent arguement:</p>
<p>But I think you underestimate the macho desire of your traditional Aussie to dominate; and the frustration that comes from the failure to do so.</p>
<p>My Tenner remains on a big Ponting wind-up before Jan 5th 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: auvergne</title>
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		<dc:creator>auvergne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tenner wasted, I would suggest. It&#039;s frustration that typically leads to &quot;temper tantrums&quot; - which are anyway blown out of all proportion by an amoral, advertiser-dependent media which panders to the lowest common denominator - peculiar blend of public puritanism, even prurience, and moral outrage that has replaced more traditional values over the years. 

It came as a relief and a joy to read an article in The Telegraph that actually reflects what is the norm in sport â€“ the vigorous, and often foul-mouthed, exchanges that sportsmen typically have in the heat of the moment, and, more importantly, the &quot;players&#039; code&quot; that enshrines this as a necessary, even an honourable, thing:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=D45O1DUT3RI4FQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/sport/2006/09/19/srnort19.xml

As I&#039;ve written before, problems do occur in interethnic matches, but much less so than team managements with an eye on the broader political picture would have us believe. Players of most professional sports, from whatever background, will &quot;test&quot; and &quot;target&quot; the opposition, especially the top performers and the perceived weak individuals, in an attempt at mental disintegration. The same goes for sport at semi-professional and at a decent amateur level too. 

The challenge as exposed by the Telegraph&#039;s commendably unedited (i.e. true) insight into the sporting mind is how this kind of &quot;para-sporting&quot; activity should be accommodated. Burying one&#039;s head in the sand, and pretending it doesn&#039;t exist, or drawing up ever more, and ever more complex and unenforceable, &quot;Codes of Conduct&quot; or &quot;Spirits ofâ€¦&quot;, is not the way forward, in my opinion. (The whole concept of a written &quot;Spirit&quot; is bizarre when you think about it.) But it is surprising how rare it is to find sports administrators who are willing to attend to what actually happens in their sport, rather than allowing themselves to be collectively led into buying into a state of affairs that doesn&#039;t exist in reality, as they construct their Missions and Values, and drive forward their careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tenner wasted, I would suggest. It&#8217;s frustration that typically leads to &#8220;temper tantrums&#8221; &#8211; which are anyway blown out of all proportion by an amoral, advertiser-dependent media which panders to the lowest common denominator &#8211; peculiar blend of public puritanism, even prurience, and moral outrage that has replaced more traditional values over the years. </p>
<p>It came as a relief and a joy to read an article in The Telegraph that actually reflects what is the norm in sport â€“ the vigorous, and often foul-mouthed, exchanges that sportsmen typically have in the heat of the moment, and, more importantly, the &#8220;players&#8217; code&#8221; that enshrines this as a necessary, even an honourable, thing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=D45O1DUT3RI4FQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/sport/2006/09/19/srnort19.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=D45O1DUT3RI4FQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/sport/2006/09/19/srnort19.xml</a></p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve written before, problems do occur in interethnic matches, but much less so than team managements with an eye on the broader political picture would have us believe. Players of most professional sports, from whatever background, will &#8220;test&#8221; and &#8220;target&#8221; the opposition, especially the top performers and the perceived weak individuals, in an attempt at mental disintegration. The same goes for sport at semi-professional and at a decent amateur level too. </p>
<p>The challenge as exposed by the Telegraph&#8217;s commendably unedited (i.e. true) insight into the sporting mind is how this kind of &#8220;para-sporting&#8221; activity should be accommodated. Burying one&#8217;s head in the sand, and pretending it doesn&#8217;t exist, or drawing up ever more, and ever more complex and unenforceable, &#8220;Codes of Conduct&#8221; or &#8220;Spirits ofâ€¦&#8221;, is not the way forward, in my opinion. (The whole concept of a written &#8220;Spirit&#8221; is bizarre when you think about it.) But it is surprising how rare it is to find sports administrators who are willing to attend to what actually happens in their sport, rather than allowing themselves to be collectively led into buying into a state of affairs that doesn&#8217;t exist in reality, as they construct their Missions and Values, and drive forward their careers.</p>
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		<title>By: Justcoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justcoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rattled, its the only word for it:

Normally its the nonchalance of Aussie confidence that is remarkable - now its the unity of the Barmy Army (and the England team) that has got to them... Call it the Gary Pratt effect.

I&#039;ll lay a tenner that before the series is over Ricky Ponting throws an dummy-spitting wobbly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rattled, its the only word for it:</p>
<p>Normally its the nonchalance of Aussie confidence that is remarkable &#8211; now its the unity of the Barmy Army (and the England team) that has got to them&#8230; Call it the Gary Pratt effect.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll lay a tenner that before the series is over Ricky Ponting throws an dummy-spitting wobbly.</p>
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