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    Video of Fred Trueman bowling

    By Will 2 years ago, at the end of August Leave a comment on this post

    A pretty rare video of Fred Trueman on YouTube. If you can’t see it below, click here. Such a fluid action - really terrific to watch, especially if (like me) you didn’t see him “live”.

    His book is also well worth getting.

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    25 Responses to “Video of Fred Trueman bowling”

  • Reverse Swing wrote:
    August 31st, 2006 at 10.17 pm

    Classic stuff - Lots of Headingley 1961 in there - afterwhich apparently Trueman had a big bust up with his wife and slept in his car!

    I know it\’s probably a trick of the camera, but if I didn\’t know better I\’d say his arm at point of delivery was as bent as Muralitharans….

  • suraj wrote:
    August 31st, 2006 at 11.16 pm

    I was thinking the same thing

    I wonder if he could have bowled without arousing suspicions, no-balls and suspensions in the present day and age

  • japaddy wrote:
    September 1st, 2006 at 3.28 am

    and was that a slightly raised quarter seam…..?

  • auvergne wrote:
    September 1st, 2006 at 10.41 am

    I used to style myself on Fiery Fred when I was a nipper. Ran right round the house before delivering the ball to my brother, who had been waiting patiently in the back garden. Come to think of it, I think he objected to me chewing Rowntree’s Fruit Gums because of the action I got on the tennis ball.

  • Paul Spencer wrote:
    September 2nd, 2006 at 12.33 pm

    As yes, Fred. I was a bit too young to rememeber him actually playing but I do recall rushing home from school at lunchtime in the early-mid 1970’s to watch him present a TV show called ‘Indoor League’. This was a bizarre North-of-England type show featuring such pub type games as bar billards, arm wrestling and, the never to be forgotten, shove ha’penny.

    He presented it from a large leather armchair, pint in hand and puffing away on his pipe. He always signed off with ‘I’ll se’thee next week’.

  • zulfikar wrote:
    September 2nd, 2006 at 12.42 pm

    I think he would definitely be called by Darrel Hair the way he was bowling.Poor Shabbir; he bowls much clearer than the great Truman but is a victim of present day strong headed administrators who are out to squeeze all glory out of this lovely game.

    zulfikar

  • Ciggy wrote:
    September 2nd, 2006 at 3.01 pm

    Lovely action…. looks effortless. Wonder if someone could set up some tracking software on this video to estimate how long the ball takes to reach the stumps, and knowing the frame rate of course, figure out how fast Freddie was bowling.

    Would be quite interesting.

  • Ciggy wrote:
    September 2nd, 2006 at 3.05 pm

    I wish posters would keep to this video and stop at that. Darrel Hair and Shabbir are not subjects of this clip.

  • Graham Stewart wrote:
    September 2nd, 2006 at 3.49 pm

    How on earth can you pronounce on the legality of Fred’s bowling from a grainy, poor-quality video a few inches across? You either have some secret resolution-enhancing technology on your PC or you are seeing what you want to see.

    And people did get called for throwing in Trueman’s day - just check out Geoff Griffin or Peter Loader’s details on Cricinfo.

    Any excuse for WUMs with an axe to grind, if you ask me…

  • Ron wrote:
    September 2nd, 2006 at 4.38 pm

    He might get away with today’s “15 degree” law, but watching this video surely makes one wonder if he was quite legal in his time. It would be interesting to hear from the experts who are quick to call bowlers from the non-white countries. On the other rand, Trueman looks cleaner than some of those Brett Lee deliveries!

  • Bowman wrote:
    September 2nd, 2006 at 11.12 pm

    I think there’s a way you can measure how fast he was bowling, though i’m not sure how well it will work with this grainy video footage.

    Damit i’ve forgotten it, i’ll remember it later, it’s a pretty accurate way i think.

    Anyway, Fred looks to have a lovely action which puts the likes of Liam far too overcoached Plunket to shame. It’s all so natural.

    He doesn’t look that quick for the things i’ve been hearing about him but that’s probably just the footage.

  • Ciggy wrote:
    September 3rd, 2006 at 3.09 pm

    Action looks fine to me looking at this frame by frame. On the other hand some of the guys nowadays look like they’re shying at coconuts at a village fair.:)

  • Big Ask wrote:
    September 3rd, 2006 at 7.30 pm

    I agree with most posters: beautiful, fluid, smooth action. I was lucky enough to see him play against Windies in 1963; to see Fred and graceful Gary Sobers on the same pitch was unforgettable.

    To those with a current axe to grind: I’m English and think Darrell Hair should never umpire again, and the ICC should never have let him get this far. The man is a disgrace. But don’t involve Trueman in this; the game was different then, let’s just enjoy bowling grace when we see it, whether it’s Fred, Gary, Courtney W, Dennis L, Shoiab A, Richard Hadlee, whoever.

  • Ciggy wrote:
    September 3rd, 2006 at 8.18 pm

    Fair enough Big Ask!

  • harold sahadeo wrote:
    September 3rd, 2006 at 10.26 pm

    It is an excellent piece of history. A note on the batsmen involved will be appreciated.One can only guess who they are. I believe I can identify Joe Solomon in the penultimate shot.

  • japaddy wrote:
    September 4th, 2006 at 1.15 am

    I remember that particular television show, i also remember visiting Fred’s sports store in Skipton and asking where’s Fred? one of the staff told me to stick my head out of the door and watch for him coming past in his Bentley.

    Can someone help me in Freds Biography ‘Fred’ was there a reference to chucking? i seem to remeber there was.

    And my favourite ‘Truemanism’
    ” A gentleman is a man who gets out of the bath to pee”

  • Wasim_USA wrote:
    September 4th, 2006 at 5.13 pm

    Zulfikar, I did not see any problem with Fred’s bowling action. Infact his action is one of the most natural bowling action I have seen. Please dont compare Shabbir’s action to this great legend. To me Shabbir’s action can be used in a geometry class to describe what a right angle looks like :).

  • bagapath wrote:
    September 5th, 2006 at 10.11 am

    fantastic stuff. thanks for giving us an opprtunity to see the great fast bowler in action. comparing him with shabbir is atrocious. fred looks smooth and fluid. shabbir was a nonsensical chucker who deservedly got kicked out. even if he were allowed to chuck for 67 tests he wont take 307 wickets at 21+ average like truman. let us please appreciate this piece of history for what it is and leave petty politics aside.

  • Tak 'od an' sup, Lad wrote:
    September 5th, 2006 at 4.06 pm

    In terms of speed, none of these show Fred bowling at anywhere near his quickest. At Headingley in ‘61 and Edgabaston in ‘63 he got his wickets by cutting his run and his pace and bowling leg-cutters - a decent trick if you know how to do it. The 300th wicket at the Oval came long after he’d lost his quickest pace.

    When bowling at his quickest he was as quick as anyone, and with that natural outswing he was often unplayable. Comparable with Wes Hall - you really didn’t get on the front foot to him without checking your personal insurance first.

    The canard about chucking really is just so much rubbish -the same thing’s been said about Larwood and Lindwall when shot from the same angle. If you look at the way his chest’s facing, and where his feet pointed at the moment of delivery, well, he’d have to be a bloody contortionist to be chucking. Anyone who’d even think he might chuck is suffering from twisted brain.

    He was also, for what it’s worth, a perfect natural gentleman who could be very unpleasant when condescended to by selectors, committeemen or southerners, but utterly generous with his time and attention when talking to a genuine Yorkshire cricket fan.

    Well, he was with me.

  • sez wrote:
    September 16th, 2006 at 6.15 pm

    No disrespect to fred, but looking at this film he its doubtful he’d be nicknamed ‘feiry fred’ if he played today is it? Do you thihk he’s even play for England?

  • sez wrote:
    September 16th, 2006 at 6.15 pm

    No disrespect to fred, but looking at this film he its doubtful he’d be nicknamed ‘feiry fred’ if he played today is it? Do you thihk he’d
    even play for England?

  • Graham Stewart wrote:
    September 16th, 2006 at 11.03 pm

    Just a thought, sez; did you even bother to check the post before yours before posting? The explanation there is complete and accurate.

    And to answer your questions; yes and yes. If England had Fred in his pomp in this year’s Ashes squad that little urn would be completely safe.

  • Tak 'od an' sup, Lad wrote:
    September 18th, 2006 at 10.29 am

    Oooh, just the thought of Fred addressing Hayden’s footwork issues!!!! You could sell tickets for that! Not that the confrontation’d last all that long.

    I once saw Fred dismiss I think it was Ian Hall of Derbyshire by hitting him full on, just below the knee-roll. The bloke limped and I mean limped off.

  • mike wrote:
    September 19th, 2006 at 2.47 pm

    What a sad day to hear of Freddie Trueman’s passing.I was a young lad when he played and his reputation is second to none. What a funny man too with his wonderful and humorous speeches delivered in a strong Yorkshire accent.
    All cricket fans mourn his passing.

  • simon wrote:
    May 24th, 2007 at 12.14 am

    Fred Trueman’s action is as natural and textbook as anyone that has ever played.

    Also remember that in those clips he was past 30 years old, and was using swing and cutters to take wickets. Rather like Richard Hadlee did.

    In his early days he was in the 90 mph speed range.

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