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Twenty-2o game at Brisbane

By Scott 2 years ago, mid-January Leave a comment on this post

There was a Twenty-20 game tonight between Australia and South Africa at Brisbane tonight, and our intrepid Will covered it for Cricinfo.

Australia walked all over South Africa, and Damien Martyn and Andrew Symonds had a bit of a hit and a giggle.

I talked to Will after the game, and he confessed to loving it. I must admit I loathe Twenty-20. I don’t like the thinking behind the game. Cricket needs to be popularised, but that is REAL cricket. You do not see the Royal Opera Company hosting Madonna at Covent Gardens, so I’m not entirely sure why cricket needs this sort of comic caper.

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20 Responses to “Twenty-2o game at Brisbane”

  • Zainub wrote:
    January 9th, 2006 at 9.04 pm

    I watched only the second half, and even though I am unlikely ever to fall in love with the Australian kit designer, I’ve always been a big fan of 20 Twenty, and cannot help but admit I also enjoyed yesterday’s game, what ever I was able to watch of it.

    True, such one-off games don’t achieve much, apart from some money and lots of good laughs and fun for the spectators, but they don’t harm the game in any grave way either, not in my opinion in the least. So I say let them stay. And don’t anyone even say anything about Domestic 20 20, I’ve watched the English, South African, Pakistani and even a small Indian domestic version of it, all on telly, and all have been hugely entertaining. It might not be wrong to say that 20 20 is the best thing that ever happened to domestic cricket.

    I am not entirely against the idea of an international Twenty 20 multi team contest either, once every two years or something like that, in fact we could get rid of that largely meaningless champions trophy and incorporate it in the schedule instead of it (on the consideration that all teams agree to using sane kit designers).

  • Alan R wrote:
    January 9th, 2006 at 11.39 pm

    I think 20/20 is a great way of spreading interest in the game (in fact it’s the only initiative in recent years which offers any chance of expanding a cricket audience which would otherwise be shrinking due to exclusive tv deals that offer a short-term safe harbor against economic shortfalls at the expense of the sport’s future growth).

    Most people are too busy to spend a whole day (or 5) watching a sport. And even if you do have the time, try dragging a spouse along. Most Americans are stunned or just laugh when you tell them how long a cricket match lasts.

    International cricket is a self-sustaining entity in Australia and India, but in other countries it seems to be suffering a decline as an institution. Things revived substantially in the UK last year in part due to the Ashes excitement and in part due to 20/20. I don’t think the Ashes excitement is sustainable, though. 20/20 is sustainable and can prop up the institution of cricket as a whole.

    I think there’s been a tension between commerce and tradition in cricket for maybe the last 150 years, and the Madonna vs. opera analogy illustrates it well. I have a feeling that if the Royal Opera Company lost their taxpayer support, they would jump at the chance to have Madonna play a part in their offerings. That might turn off the purists, but the purists would still have some of their regular operas to watch.

    I also feel that 20/20 gives cricket a chance to ultimately become an Olympic sport. It just seems silly that the Olympic Games includes things like rhythmic gymnastics, ice dancing, curling, dressage, sailing, trampoline, etc., but not cricket. The rap on cricket is that it’s unworkable because it takes too long to get a result.

  • Robert wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 1.32 am

    How long till the tippy-go-run tournament is started?

  • Russ Degnan wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 2.49 am

    I think it is too early to make a judgement on 20-20 yet, for the simple reason that it doesn’t yet take itself seriously. It is loaded with gimmicks and other rules that don’t add much to the game *, but get added by administrators who don’t trust it to evolve by itself.

    I think it will though, as one-dayers did, and I think popularity will tell eventually. The question will be whether it makes the current “popular” version redundant.

    * One thing I include here are bowling restrictions. Does stopping the best bowlers from playing actually add anything to the game?

  • Rae wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 8.05 am

    I attend most matches at the Gabba and was also at Friday nights 20/20 between Qld and Tasmanio\a (washed out half way through)

    My impression was that although there was 38,000 spectator, it basically consided of about 8,000 cricket followers and 30,000 blokes having a beer after work.

    I didn’t think the cricket was too bad although the format means that by the time the South Africans had faced 7 overs the game was finished.

    The problem is primarily with the fluff around the game. Radio station airheads trying not to show they know nothing of the game interviewing players and spectators between overs, music blaring from the PA almost until the bowler reaches the crease, and jokes to the captains and asking them for answers while they are trying to set a field.

    As for the pitch .. the field wasn’t much bigger than my backyard .. you could have had a football match going on between the rope and the fence on the school ground side of the ground.

    I think it might have a place in domestic cricket, but since you will fill the same ground this weekend with the one day game, why bother with the 20/20 format for international competition.

  • Will wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 9.29 am

    Hi all. I have to be honest, here. I hated Twenty20 when it first arrived, and felt it threatened the future of the game (”the game” being Test cricket). Now, though, I’m a complete convert; it’s not a replacement for one-dayers, for Tests or for any other type of cricket. It’s a a great, new, exhilerating addition. The fact that nearly 40,000 people turned up to watch a short cricket game - the largest crowd ever at the Gabba for any sporting event - shows the format not only works, but that people enjoy it.

    It’s not pure, or simple. It’s frenetic, mad, and is arguably the very antithesis of Test cricket, and that’s why it works. It’s unashamedly loud and brash, and sometimes a game needs to be woken up in this way in order to help it survive.

    Equally, as with anything, it’s not for everyone.

  • Ken wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 11.46 am

    I think 20/20 is great too. So what if it seems like it’s 30,000 blokes turning up for a beer after work? It’s a) making money for the game, and b) gets cricket a new audience, where people might actually take following the game up more seriously.

    What I didn’t like, though, was putting players nicknames on the backs of their shirt. That seemed a gimmick too far for me.

  • Saurabh Wahi wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 1.26 pm

    I am a Test cricket fanatic, but must admit I love Twenty20 (for most of the reasons are covered above).

    However, I do have an issue when the adminstrators create artificial means to ‘hike’ up the run scoring ability of batsmen as was the case in this game (by bringing in the Boundry ropes).

    At the end of the day, be it Tests, ODIs or Twenty20, if cricket is not an even contest between bat and ball, it ceases to be a, well, contest.

    Check this analysis of the ODI game and why I think more 4s & 6s does not mean more fun…

    http://vitalstats.blogspot.com/2006/01/sometimes-more-is-less.html

    Cheers,

  • Sophie wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 5.01 pm

    I have to admit, i like the Twenty20 matches. I know they can be a bit of a gimmick, but they make for good viewing and its definitely a lot more convenient to sit and watch cricket for 40 overs than a whole day, or five days. They’re just fairly entertaining, and non-cricket followers (I know, I know. That sounds ridiculous) probably find it a bit easier to follow. :D Oh, one question. I apologise in advance for my naiveity, but ummm…is there a particular reason why the Aussies didn’t play more experienced players, like Lee, Warne, Gilchrist etc? Is it not allowed or something, or just a case of wanting to give inexperienced players a go at it?

    The Australian strips were absolutely hideous.

  • Wraye wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 9.30 pm

    Ah, don’t worry, the strips won’t last. Overwhelming response on how hideous they are will eventually filter through. Remember when Packer put the WIndies in shocking pink? - never to be seen again! Oh thank you!

    I have never seen International Twenty20, only radio coverage and some experiments here. I’d love to see it live on the International scene - just see it, you know? But I can tell you all one thing from my own home experiences. The crowd gets a great thrill out of it, but officiating a game is so totally exhausting. In a Test you know when someone is nurdling. In 20-20, you expect action every ball, and mostly you get it and you have to be alert and attentive - on high octane adrenaline as much as the players, but for the whole time.

    To be honest, I’d love to watch Twenty20, but I’d prefer score a Test - any Test except the last Ashes! ;)

  • Rae wrote:
    January 10th, 2006 at 10.51 pm

    Hi Sophie,

    From the few games I’ve seen, the odds are well and truly with the batsmen, particularly if you are batting first. I know they are saying Glen Mcgrath was ‘rested’ but his probably just too old and wise to get into a game where the batsmaen are exxpected to score at 8 runs per over or better :)

  • Saurabh Wahi wrote:
    January 11th, 2006 at 8.26 am

    Rae,

    Though the odds are in favour of the batsmen, I think wickets are also very important in a Twenty20 game as it slows the momentum and new batsmen do not have time to get in.

    In fact, one of the most succesful Twenty20 games (in English county) has been Adam Holliocke. He realized (early on) the importance of taking wickets and use to have a couple of attacking players throughout the Twenty20 innings.

  • Alexander Morrison wrote:
    January 11th, 2006 at 5.22 pm

    I saw Surrey vs. Middlesex at Lords in the Twenty20 competition last summer, and found the game itself rather dull, even though Tim Murtagh took six wickets, the first bowler to do so in the competition. There is no time for any tension to build, or any kind of narrative to develop; watching the ball sail over a heavily shortened boundary loses its appeal after a while. However, the ground was full, the biggest crowd Lords has seen for a domestic game since the golden Compton-Edrich summer of 1947. A substantial portion of those were women and children, and Middlesex must have made a fat profit. For these reasons I think Twenty20 is a great idea in domestic cricket, even though I myself don’t enjoy it. It gives players who never made it internationally the chance to enjoy the buzz of a full stadium, it brings the game to new audiences and it makes the Counties less dependent on television money doled out by the ECB (and we all know where that took us earlier last year). If Twenty20 can help to subsidise First-Class domestic cricket in other countries (and whether you enjoy watching that or not, without it there would be no Test Cricket) then it is unquestionably a good thing. At the international level the logic of having Twenty20 games is less clear, as considered purely as Cricket, it’s pretty worthless in my view.

  • two-minute wonder wrote:
    January 11th, 2006 at 10.17 pm

    I’d consider voting for your blog if all your clocks weren’t two minutes slow!

  • Wraye wrote:
    January 12th, 2006 at 1.10 pm

    Does anyone have any news on Gillespie? A friend from the UK just called me in the office to tell me Dizzy dived into a swimming pool that … er …did not have much water in it, and he broke is nose.

    Is my mate pulling my leg on this one?

  • Chris Weston wrote:
    January 12th, 2006 at 7.52 pm

    I vote for Twenty20, if that’s any good to you. Far better than ODIs which are pretty tedious more often than not. Test cricket is the real thing, of course - but if I’m going to watch a short substitute (no Gary Pratt jokes please) then I’ll take the 20 over game rather than the 50.

  • Jess wrote:
    January 12th, 2006 at 9.58 pm

    “Is my mate pulling my leg on this one?”

    *snerk*. I think so. That’s the sort of thing that finds its way onto t’Internet straight away. He did have nasal surgery, apparently after complications after flu. Of course, that could be a crock.

    But it’s funny anyway.

  • Wraye wrote:
    January 13th, 2006 at 12.32 am

    Hi Jess, how’re doing? Wondered myself, as could find nothing on the Internet. how I hate these sort of leg-pullers from abroad. So frustrating, don’t you think?

  • hullaboy wrote:
    January 13th, 2006 at 1.54 am

    With all the hullaboo (as they call it in this part of the world) about India vs Pakistan cricket,I think the VB series probably is going to be a more interesting cricket series.

  • Hammy wrote:
    January 14th, 2006 at 1.09 pm

    Gee, I read the match report on Cricinfo without even realising who had written it. Imagine that - it’s by a bloke we all know and love.


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