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	<title>Comments on: Football&#8217;s own goal</title>
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		<title>By: A P Webster</title>
		<link>http://www.cricket.mailliw.com/archives/2005/08/19/footballs-own-goal/comment-page-1/#comment-7498</link>
		<dc:creator>A P Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, the atmosphere at the Third Day of the Old Trafford test did have fans chanting, shouting, cheering and singing for no real reason, even when there was no play.

It might have had something to do with the beer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, the atmosphere at the Third Day of the Old Trafford test did have fans chanting, shouting, cheering and singing for no real reason, even when there was no play.</p>
<p>It might have had something to do with the beer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes but in a football stadium the atomsphere is delightful the shouting for there team or country and the support to the players for cricket the croud just sits there and claps even if there is no reason. like man united(the best team) they have supporters just shouting and chearing boosting there confidence. what would you rather be a footballer or a cricketer. i agree thought footballers should respect the refs disicion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes but in a football stadium the atomsphere is delightful the shouting for there team or country and the support to the players for cricket the croud just sits there and claps even if there is no reason. like man united(the best team) they have supporters just shouting and chearing boosting there confidence. what would you rather be a footballer or a cricketer. i agree thought footballers should respect the refs disicion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rishi Gajria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rishi Gajria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love of sport is completely subjective. It all depends on one&#039;s tastes. I cant get into Soccer but I can appreciate and respect it. I hope comments or comparisions such as the ones posted are not taken as soccer bashing but as constructive criticism and an insight into what we like about a particular sport or dislike.
  One has to admit that soccer can come accross as anti-climatic to many sports fans even slow. I think it is the level of popularity of soccer in Europe that may prove to be its worst enemy. Too much hype, too much commercialisation and over exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love of sport is completely subjective. It all depends on one&#8217;s tastes. I cant get into Soccer but I can appreciate and respect it. I hope comments or comparisions such as the ones posted are not taken as soccer bashing but as constructive criticism and an insight into what we like about a particular sport or dislike.<br />
  One has to admit that soccer can come accross as anti-climatic to many sports fans even slow. I think it is the level of popularity of soccer in Europe that may prove to be its worst enemy. Too much hype, too much commercialisation and over exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: Wraye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wraye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Germany where football is revered next to God. Cricket has a realy hard time - nothing on TV or radio and the newspapers treat us as a strange cult. Brian Lara&#039;s PC game was toted as &quot;cultivated boredom in white&quot;. My youngest daughter plays football and I have tried to teach her the Spirit of the game, unfortunately this means she still puts the boot in but is polite with it.
But there are some positives. During the last World Cup, cricinfo did free Internet commentary. My boss caught me at my desk listening when all my colleagues were watching the football World Cup. He is very proud of his English ablilities but declared the commentary to be &quot;not proper English and totally boring&quot; so am officially allowed to follow the game in office hours.
What&#039;s more, have finally trained colleagues to ask not &quot;are England still playing?&quot; but rather &quot;what&#039;s the score?&quot;
Hope for the Krauts yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Germany where football is revered next to God. Cricket has a realy hard time &#8211; nothing on TV or radio and the newspapers treat us as a strange cult. Brian Lara&#8217;s PC game was toted as &#8220;cultivated boredom in white&#8221;. My youngest daughter plays football and I have tried to teach her the Spirit of the game, unfortunately this means she still puts the boot in but is polite with it.<br />
But there are some positives. During the last World Cup, cricinfo did free Internet commentary. My boss caught me at my desk listening when all my colleagues were watching the football World Cup. He is very proud of his English ablilities but declared the commentary to be &#8220;not proper English and totally boring&#8221; so am officially allowed to follow the game in office hours.<br />
What&#8217;s more, have finally trained colleagues to ask not &#8220;are England still playing?&#8221; but rather &#8220;what&#8217;s the score?&#8221;<br />
Hope for the Krauts yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Heraclitean Fire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Football vs. cricket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heraclitean Fire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Football vs. cricket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s a football vs. cricket discussion over at Corridor of Uncertainty. Not surprisingly, since it&#8217;s a cricket blog, everyone is saying how wonderful cricket is and how much football could learn from it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s a football vs. cricket discussion over at Corridor of Uncertainty. Not surprisingly, since it&#8217;s a cricket blog, everyone is saying how wonderful cricket is and how much football could learn from it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 04:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>football, or soccer down here, isn&#039;t that popular but as i love my sport i follow it as well as anyone from australia. It isn&#039;t a patch on cricket. The skill and art in cricket is matched by no other. There are so many parts that make up the great game, and that&#039;s what like about it. Whether a very athletic run out, an incredible shot, an amazing leg or off spinner, an extremely fast yorker, or indeed a slower ball, everything is just a real art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>football, or soccer down here, isn&#8217;t that popular but as i love my sport i follow it as well as anyone from australia. It isn&#8217;t a patch on cricket. The skill and art in cricket is matched by no other. There are so many parts that make up the great game, and that&#8217;s what like about it. Whether a very athletic run out, an incredible shot, an amazing leg or off spinner, an extremely fast yorker, or indeed a slower ball, everything is just a real art.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the sportsmanship of cricketers, but still, if someone offered me a deal where in exchange for winning the World Cup we&#039;d never win an Ashes match for the rest of my lifetime, I wouldn&#039;t hesitate. And Rooney may have a potty-mouth, but the things he does on the pitch are just as beautiful as anything Michael Vaughan can do.

I&#039;m glad that cricket is managing to compete with the footy for media coverage, because it&#039;s boring living in a sporting monoculture; but I enjoy both, and the constant football-bashing of cricket fans looks a bit like sour grapes, frankly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the sportsmanship of cricketers, but still, if someone offered me a deal where in exchange for winning the World Cup we&#8217;d never win an Ashes match for the rest of my lifetime, I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate. And Rooney may have a potty-mouth, but the things he does on the pitch are just as beautiful as anything Michael Vaughan can do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that cricket is managing to compete with the footy for media coverage, because it&#8217;s boring living in a sporting monoculture; but I enjoy both, and the constant football-bashing of cricket fans looks a bit like sour grapes, frankly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can watch football but I get irritatd with th way it is hyped up to be &quot;the beautiful game&quot;. I don&#039;t buy into that crap one bit. What could be less beautiful that Mr Rooney (I could just stop there ;-) ) effing and blinding at the ref. Rugby players refer the ref as &quot;Sir&quot; (as opposed to w@nker). Compare, then, the beauty of a Michael Clarke off drive or Vaughan&#039;s hooks and, indeed, the good grace of Martyn in the last test, not to mention the compassion between Lee and Flintoff.

Yet the last two tests have had more of a football atmosphere to them; not something I mind at all. Curious given the mentality of &quot;moronballers&quot; which irks me so.

I hope this isn&#039;t the thin end of the wedge though......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can watch football but I get irritatd with th way it is hyped up to be &#8220;the beautiful game&#8221;. I don&#8217;t buy into that crap one bit. What could be less beautiful that Mr Rooney (I could just stop there <img src='http://www.cricket.mailliw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) effing and blinding at the ref. Rugby players refer the ref as &#8220;Sir&#8221; (as opposed to w@nker). Compare, then, the beauty of a Michael Clarke off drive or Vaughan&#8217;s hooks and, indeed, the good grace of Martyn in the last test, not to mention the compassion between Lee and Flintoff.</p>
<p>Yet the last two tests have had more of a football atmosphere to them; not something I mind at all. Curious given the mentality of &#8220;moronballers&#8221; which irks me so.</p>
<p>I hope this isn&#8217;t the thin end of the wedge though&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 19:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t watch Football.  I&#039;ve tried so many times, but I just can&#039;t &quot;get into&quot; it and I don&#039;t understand what all the fuss is about.  I appreciate a good game, but appreciate is about as excited as I can become.

Cricket, on the other hand, is just so interesting, for so long.  There&#039;s never a dull moment.  Its complexity is its charm, and also perhaps its downfall in terms of a dwindling following in this country (which is now, thank God, on the up again..but for how long?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t watch Football.  I&#8217;ve tried so many times, but I just can&#8217;t &#8220;get into&#8221; it and I don&#8217;t understand what all the fuss is about.  I appreciate a good game, but appreciate is about as excited as I can become.</p>
<p>Cricket, on the other hand, is just so interesting, for so long.  There&#8217;s never a dull moment.  Its complexity is its charm, and also perhaps its downfall in terms of a dwindling following in this country (which is now, thank God, on the up again..but for how long?)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Mallory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Mallory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The series has been played in an outstanding spirit, incredibly competitive and yet fair and sporting throughout.  The contrast with the thuggish petulance of football couldn&#039;t be clearer.  Which sport would you rather your son played?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The series has been played in an outstanding spirit, incredibly competitive and yet fair and sporting throughout.  The contrast with the thuggish petulance of football couldn&#8217;t be clearer.  Which sport would you rather your son played?</p>
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		<title>By: A P Webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>A P Webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The atmosphere at Old Trafford was as close to a football match as I&#039;ve ever encountered in a cricket crowd - especially on the Saturday. It does seem that there is a certain decorum and class amongst cricket fans which is absent in most football crowds, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The atmosphere at Old Trafford was as close to a football match as I&#8217;ve ever encountered in a cricket crowd &#8211; especially on the Saturday. It does seem that there is a certain decorum and class amongst cricket fans which is absent in most football crowds, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The contest between Australia and England has been tough going for both teams, but good sportsmanship has not been lost and I for one am greatful. The image of Flintoff with a distraught Lee will remain with me for a long time.</description>
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