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England v Australia, NatWest Challenge, The Oval, Game 3

By Will 5 years ago, mid-July Add your comment below

Can’t contribute much…but any thoughts on the game, feel free to leave a comment. England are (groan) bowling second, but the pitch is good so we should expect them to post a bloody big score…

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50 Responses to “England v Australia, NatWest Challenge, The Oval, Game 3”

  • AKR wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.01 am

    um.
    just started a post back at my place, and am torn whether to do the thoughts here or on me blog…

  • AKR wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.20 am

    15 runs from the first 8 overs. ouch.
    Wil’s ol’pal has got 4 maidens from 4 overs.

  • AKR wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.32 am

    And mcGrath could have had 5 overs, 1 for none, except Gillespie’s tour just got worse. After a clumsy misfield earlier, he dropped Vaughan at 9 off a sitter.
    Now Gilchrist has gone and dropped Strauss- a kier, but a straighforward one.

  • worma wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.46 am

    Yeah, but I dont think Eng is looking to capitalise on these. MV already back, Strauss still scratching. And KP again comes too early. Anyway, its almost a direct ashes selection trial for him !

  • Harry wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.51 am

    I know it might sound weird coming from an Aussie, but i really hope England can post near 300, in fact the higher the score the better, because i’m really up for a an exciting run chase on what looks like a good pitch!

  • worma wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.53 am

    Yeah Harry, that would test out Hayden and Gilchrist well, one last time before the battle. But on the other hand, Ponting would have himself to blame if they chase 300 and fail miserably. By inserting Eng he has played to their weakness rather than his strenght. Also, substitute choices dictated the decision I guess.

  • Harry wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.54 am

    i will add, if we get you out for 150 and get the runs inside 25 oves i won’t be upset!

  • AKR wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.55 am

    absolutely, harry! Would love for it to go down to the wire, but England really need to rack up the runs here…some cracking shots from Strauss off Kasper here…and sure, it’s a trial for KP here. Though Hussain is going to great lengths to explain how KP would not have it any other way (but to have this tough route to the test team).

  • worma wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.56 am

    looks like happening already, Harry :-)

  • AKR wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 11.58 am

    there you go. I put the curse.
    Strauss has gone, and Flintoff has come in. It would be awesome if he and KP can get together and work for the first time…..

  • Will wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 12.00 pm

    Good delivery to dismiss Strauss…time, again, for a Freddie Special

  • AKR wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 12.04 pm

    heading home now. Hope these 2 are still together when I get home. There will be some fireworks to watch then. (though I believe Collingwood should have come in by now- more resilient and stable)

  • worma wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 12.05 pm

    Akr, totally agree. Eng should have more flexible batting order, need to have an accumulator for some time. Collingwood over KP/Freddie.

  • Darryl wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 12.28 pm

    Collingwood to the rescue again. Freddie has gone, and Pietersen isn’t dominating the attack just yet. Still, there is time for a score of 270+ if they work hard.

    Is KP really still in with a chance of being in the Test team, even though he’s had just one good knock against Australia?

  • Darryl wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 12.37 pm

    Ouch. England really is not playing well – even Gillespie has taken a wicket.

  • Harry wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 12.37 pm

    dizzy finally gets a wicket. he has looked much better

  • Will wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 12.51 pm

    And now Jones gifts Gillespie his second wicket, and gives him his form back. Plonk. England are cooked, and this farce cannot continue any longer! (re super subs)

  • Will wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 12.53 pm

    Simon Jones has been subbed…Solanki replaces him. I’d have got rid of Gough, personally. What a mess, it’s all very messy

  • Darryl wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 1.01 pm

    I quite agree, Will. England’s bowling lineup is still pretty good, but losing Jones means that they don’t have the freedom they once had.

  • worma wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 1.04 pm

    I think Eng was playing one bowler extra anyways. Flintoff is a full fledged bowler (heck he’s better than many frontline bowlers). He bats well shouldnt take away from that. Eng should look to play him as a bowler, and get in extra batsman, especially against good lineups like Aus.

    Gough or Jones is the question, though.

  • akr wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 1.12 pm

    back. interesting sub, that. but england really looks in tatters here. I suppose there is a part of me that hopes there will be a KP blitz, but i really don’t know if he will be able to…If he does we have a match on our hands. if he doesn’t, I doubt it
    (though the summer this far has harrdly been predictable)

  • akr wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 1.30 pm

    what a stunner from kasper. pity it was over the line. and thank god his head did not land on that darned speaker. 46 off 61…is KP going to pull something out here?

  • Darryl wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 1.52 pm

    Ok, so KP has had 2 good knocks against Australia, and according to his manager Ian Botham he’s now guaranteed a place in the Test team.

  • Bowled Warney wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 2.01 pm

    bowled, outdone himself, pity pitersen was looking good and building some kind of total, will they all fall away now?? at least solanki has made the most of the supersub, but i still reckon its a stuffed rule, who needs it… roll on Gilchrist…

  • Will wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 2.26 pm

    229 to win – which represents quite a recovery. But it’s a rubbish score, despite Solanki saying it’s slower than it looks. Come on Vaughan, open the bowling with Harmison – PLEASE!

  • durga02in wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 2.32 pm

    irrespective of what happens inthe last game, my admiration for the australia team will continue.the last(i.e.) second game proved to me why i had admired the aussies for such a long time.they ,simply, wont go down ,without giving a hard fight.

  • akr wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 2.39 pm

    yeah, like the last one, Australia will have to play pretty badly to lose this one. And despite not having Jones, I agree that harmy should open the bowling, have a go at the openers. but, frankly, I do not see it happening.
    Darryl: funny re: botham. he and that PR guy KP’s got…whasisname…Willis, that’s it- some Bob Willis.

  • Bowled Warney wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 2.41 pm

    a great recovery considering, people will look at mcgraths figures and think he bowled very average, but 5 overs for 2 runs, is outstanding
    giles batted well at the end, still 229 is not a given… but i reckon the aussies should make it, also good to see dizzy back, despite some poor fielding from him early on

  • akr wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 3.11 pm

    phew.
    alright then. Mr Harmison is opening. This will be interesting, and quite a telling contest in more ways than one I would think…

  • Will wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 3.23 pm

    Indeed. Gough, though, should be hung out to dry now. He had one (2?) goodish games early in the summer – but he looks past it now. Move on, England.

  • akr wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 3.34 pm

    True. I hate to say it, because I thought I saw him all rejuventated and gungho at the start of the season, but he really looks done with now. Will be surprised if he figures in future ODIs. would be regressive, i think….

    45 off 5.
    They’re murdering the bowling

  • Harry wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 3.47 pm

    Wouldn’t it be nice to be Hayden? Sit back and be able to take your time while this bloke up the other end smacks it to all corners…

  • Harry wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 3.47 pm

    Suppose it would be even nice to be Gilchrist…

  • akr wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 3.53 pm

    yes, it would be smashing
    one of my favourite-est cricketers

    so fickle is our mind. Suddenly we hear things about Hayden and Langer’s 55avg as an opening pair, and the fact that Gilly comes in at #7.
    hmmm.

  • Will wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 4.11 pm

    I’m going to save face by claiming the pitch is now flatter than it was for England. Yes, that’s right – England’s bowlers have bowled *superbly* given the conditions. In fact, Australia’s 77-0 is looking fairly useless and underpar.

    Ahem.

  • akr wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 4.44 pm

    now now will. easy does it.
    only 8 days to go. steel yourself.

  • Gaurav wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 4.46 pm

    Hehe … Once again England cant compete in the game while batting first !! Under Michael Vaughan they have won only 2 (TWO) games batting first against opposition of any note (minus Bangladesh and Zimbabwe)

  • akr wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 4.53 pm

    awright, I’m crashing.
    this series was not half as exciting as it had promised to be. what a pity.

  • Harry wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 5.09 pm

    i’ll say this much, England won’t want to be playing Australia on pitches like this 1 in the test matches

  • Scott Wickstein wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 7.52 pm

    Okay, I watched the English innings-when I dozed off they were 6 for 120 so a bit annoying to see they got 100 more but then it allowed Gilly to do his stuff.

    Its a nice feeling waking up to a scoreline like that.

  • Will wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 7.56 pm

    I’m sure it must be, Scott. It’s less nice watching England capitulate like that.

    As Australians would say, had England won, “I wouldn’t read much into this victory.” So, as a Pom, I’m saying the same! England are crap in this format anyway…

  • Darryl wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 9.35 pm

    I’m with you there, Will … I wouldn’t read too much into this victory. It’s nice to win this series, but Test Match cricket is a very different beast, and I think we should expect a better England performance in the 5 day game.

    Having said that, Gillespie and Kasper look good again, Gilchrist can still hit a ball, and Ponting has confirmed his return. Australian confidence has been restored, and that’s a big thing for this team.

  • Will wrote:
    July 12th, 2005 at 9.42 pm

    Indeed Darryl. The monster is slowly waking up – Gilchrist was absolutely magnificent today. Gillespie looked a lot better too, but nothing near his “usual” excellence. (by usual, I mean his old form of a year or more ago). However, despite my not reading much into this – England will be fairly crushed by this, and Australia fairly buoyed.

    Also – I thought Pietersen played an excellent innings, perhaps one of his best to date. Did you see the six he hit – coming down the pitch, to a short-pitched ball, and smacking it tennis-shot style for six? Quite astonishing

  • Stu wrote:
    July 13th, 2005 at 12.33 am

    You’re right Will – you can’t read too much into these series. Which is why I said on my blog that only bad can come of this 3 match series, for England – and it has. We already thought they were a serious challenge, they didn’t need to prove anymore. All it has done is allow Australia to shake the remaining “monkeys from their backs” and put the focus of the wonderful English press back on England. You can sense the anxiousness from here – and you couldn’t a week ago.

  • Darryl wrote:
    July 13th, 2005 at 4.22 am

    Yep, I saw that one Will … brilliant stuff. I seem to remember Michael Clarke doing something similar vs New Zealand.

    Stu, you’re right – this extra series has been quite a negative thing for England. Australia could have done with an extra 3 day tour game prior to the Test series, but they can certainly draw plenty of positives out of their last couple of wins over England.

  • Chris wrote:
    July 13th, 2005 at 9.20 am

    When Ponting took that ludicrous catch on Sunday and went on to score a century, I think we witnessed the turning point of the tour. A team’s catching and fielding reflects their confidence and spirit – England were ascendant when Collingwood caught Hayden in the tri series, and outplayed Australia throughout. But the worm has now turned – the Australian bowling display and Gilchrist’s rampage confirmed that they’re peaking at the right time. You might not want to read too much into the Natwest series result, but this time next week and confident and in-form Australian walk out onto the Lord’s turf will all the momentum. I still reckon it’ll be 3-1 to Australia.

  • Bowled Warney wrote:
    July 13th, 2005 at 11.01 am

    Not that I’m one to have the final say or not that I’m even gloating even remotely at the moment, but yes it does appear after such an exciting and tight month of cricket that the tables have turned, read what you want inot it I reckon it will take a massive effort to get England back on track, don’t forget Australia not only have the unforgettable warney they also have Justin Langer hungry to get in on the action as well, I honestly can’t see England bouncing back from here…and I hope I don’t have to eat my words….

  • Will wrote:
    July 13th, 2005 at 11.06 am

    I honestly hope you do have to eat your words – not just because I’m an Englishman, but for Cricket in general, Australia *need* to be beaten…if only to keep them on their toes. I thought Gilchrist and Ponting’s reactions said a lot yesterday; England had the upper hand in the series, earlier on, but Australia “bounced back.” It is now up to England to do the same – to provide the same counter-punching statement that they’re not second in the world for nothing (just as Australia have done yesterday: “we’re world number one, and we intend to prove it.”)

    I’m still not convinced Gillespie will be as big a threat as he ought to be, and Kasprowicz doesn’t fill me with fear either. And, after all this time waiting, the start of the first Test is – finally – within touching distance, and thank GOD for that!

  • Stu wrote:
    July 13th, 2005 at 12.50 pm

    That’s Kasper’s strength – he doesn’t fill anyone with fear, next thing you know he’s taken 5 wickets.

    What about the rumour that England substituted Jones instead of Goughy yesterday, to avoid putting Darren out, without taking any part in what is his last international game?

  • karthik wrote:
    July 13th, 2005 at 1.53 pm

    Honestly, i think the ashes will be a true test of how far england have really come… If they falter like the past despite good performances lately, it is an ominous sign but if they take on the aussies like as though the last 2 matches never happened….that would be good for both the spectators and for english cricket. I am looking forward to see how well they match the aussies over 5 tests.

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