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    Ricky Ponting: significant position in Australian society

    By Will 3 years ago, at the end of May Leave a comment on this post

    Didn’t know what to make of this. Aussie coach John Buchanan says of Ponting:

    “He’s growing I think every series as a person, as a leader, as an occupier of a fairly significant position in Australian society.”

    I suppose Cricket is number 1 in Australia, but still, it seems an odd thing to say about your captain.

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    12 Responses to “Ricky Ponting: significant position in Australian society”

  • worma wrote:
    May 30th, 2005 at 11.51 am

    If the measure of good captaincy is winning, then Ponting is great. Else, I would really be interested in knowing how/why is Ponting a good/great leader ? Ohh…anyway….well its their prerogative :-)

  • Will wrote:
    May 30th, 2005 at 1.10 pm

    Not disputing he’s a great leader - he is, although it’s not hard to skipper a team of that ability. My point was about the sociological aspect of being the “occupier of a fairly significant position in Australian society.” Bit OTT I felt

  • rustam wrote:
    May 30th, 2005 at 5.43 pm

    only 7% of people in england recognise flintoff and he is the most popular. Thought i throw this one in.

  • worma wrote:
    May 30th, 2005 at 10.26 pm

    Actually I ‘was’ disputing his greatness as a leader ;-) But as I said, its their media…actually their ‘home’ affair, not for us to listen and take seriously. So I let them be !

    Rustam, so the point is ? Aus recognises its cricketers more than Eng, where football rules, as Will may confirm :-) If you are talking of asides, a huge percentage of urban India (tv viewers) may recognise Dhoni or Mongia or Pathan etc. who have, so far, done a tiny fraction of what Flintoff has achieved.

  • Will wrote:
    May 30th, 2005 at 11.06 pm

    Indeed, it’s all very relative. Cricket isn’t the number one sport in the UK, and won’t be - ever. Football reigns supreme unfortunately: who hasn’t heard of Manchester United, for example, or David Bloody Beckham?

    I think the 7% figure (for Flintoff) is pretty good - that’s about 4 million Britons!

  • James wrote:
    June 11th, 2005 at 7.37 am

    actually i lived in australia for 5 years and Australian rules football is far more popular than cricket. No way is cricket the number 1 sport in Australia.

  • Scott Wickstein wrote:
    June 12th, 2005 at 8.12 am

    James must have lived in Melbourne or Adelaide- Australian rules football is very low key in the northern states.

    Cricket is the only sport to have a solid nation wide appeal. That’s why it is the nationwide number 1 sport.

  • Will wrote:
    June 12th, 2005 at 11.54 am

    Scott, I hope you’re getting in some sleep before the Tests start - late nights in front of the box with plenty of coffee etc :) I always enjoy it when England play in Australia, listening to the cricket at 3 in the morning…

  • Scott Wickstein wrote:
    June 12th, 2005 at 12.14 pm

    Yes, I’m stockpiling the hours as we speak. I’ve got good at learning to go to work on four hours sleep.

    What you experience in England listening to Tests in Australia is what we get when we play the West Indies. Those Tests are a killer. The Ashes are easy in comparison.

  • Will wrote:
    June 12th, 2005 at 12.18 pm

    Also don’t forget the Tests start at 10.30 over here nowadays (same for you?)…which, I reckon, is 7.30pm for you. Which is perfect - have some food, stockpile the VB/Crown/Castle and enjoy watching Flintoff smash McGrath around the park!

  • Scott Wickstein wrote:
    June 13th, 2005 at 8.53 am

    Beer? Blimey, we are not all like David Boon, you know. More like strong expresso coffee more like…

    As for Flintoff, well… we shall see.

  • slick wrote:
    September 30th, 2006 at 11.13 am

    Its been a long time commin’
    To silence all that drummin’
    To show them that it wasn’t just a dream

    They’ve beaten all the rest you know
    And proven they’re the best you know
    The greatest team to wear the baggy green

    Pigeon’s pounding down like a machine
    Dizzy’s scarin’ batsmen - lookin’ mean
    Gilly’s gettin’ wickets
    Punter’s clearin’ pickets
    And Warney’s just the best we’ve ever seen

    Come on Aussie, come on, come on
    Come on Aussie, come on

    Night or day, they’re out to make us proud
    To keep our flags a-wavin’ in the crowd
    Even gettin’ zeroes
    They’ll always be our heroes
    And keep us singin’ come on just as loud

    Come on Aussie, come on, come on
    Come on Aussie, come on, come on
    Come on Aussie, come on, come on
    Come on Aussie, come on

    See ‘em sprayin’ leather at the bat
    Sweetly crackin’ winners through the gap
    They’re not just gettin’ runs
    They’re out there smashin’ tons
    Spinnin’ big time records back to back

    Come on Aussie, come on, come on
    Come on Aussie, come on

    All summer we’ll go floodin’ through the gates
    To try and get a look at cricket’s greats
    No matter what the season
    We always have a reason
    To shout out come on Aussie with our mates

    Come on Aussie, come on, come on
    Come on Aussie, come on, come on
    Come on Aussie, come on, come on
    Come on Aussie, come on

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